From: "Jim Fulton" <jim@zope.com> > > I can see it both ways: > > - see other mail > > I don't know what other mail you are refering to. Maybe it doesn't matter. the other side of the coin, is that with a working unproxied/non-proxying property and/or a non-proxied map&getattr and a unproxied MyExc instance, I can break out restricted execution.