[Python-Dev] PEP 3003 - Python Language Moratorium

geremy condra debatem1 at gmail.com
Mon Nov 9 04:50:12 CET 2009


On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 5:45 PM, geremy condra <debatem1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I quote:
>>
>> "This PEP proposes a temporary moratorium (suspension) of all changes
>> to the Python language syntax, semantics, and built-ins for a period
>> of *at least two years* from the release of Python 3.1."
>>
>> Emphasis mine.
>
> I since added this:
>
> """In particular,
> the moratorium would include Python 3.2 (to be released 18-24 months
> after 3.1) but (unless explicitly extended) allow Python 3.3 to once
> again include language changes."""
>
>> Like I say, a definite end point would be much preferred to n > 2.
>
> My time machine doesn't work very well in the future. So I can't tell
> what we'll find necessary 2 years from now. But I would be fine with
> defining the time limit to be max(time(3.1) + 2 years, time(3.2)).
> I.e. the moratorium (unless explicitly extended) ends as soon as 3.2
> has been released *and* at least 2 years have passed since 3.1.

Ok, thanks for the clarification. Could you spell out what you would
consider grounds for a future extension?

>> If possible, I'd also like to hear some of Steven's other points addressed.
>
> They haven't changed my mind.

Ok, but the fact that you (or Steven) hold a particular set of beliefs
is a singularly unconvincing argument. Could you explain why you
don't agree, if only for the record?

Geremy Condra


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