<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 21:27, Neil Schemenauer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nas@arctrix.com">nas@arctrix.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 09:06:15PM -0800, Brett Cannon wrote:<br>
> If people start taking the carrots we have added to 3.x and<br>
> backporting them to keep the 2.x series alive you are essentially<br>
> making the 3.x DOA by negating its benefits which I personally<br>
> don't agree with.<br>
<br>
</div>I think we have got to the heart of our disagreement. Assume that<br>
some superhuman takes all the backwards compatible goodies from 3.x<br>
and merges them into 2.x. If that really would kill off Python 3<br>
then I would proclaim it a project that deserved to die. Why should<br>
the backwards incompatible changes be endured if they cannot justify<br>
their existance by the benefit they provide?<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>When I said "carrots" I meant everything that makes Python 3 the best version of Python, including the backward-incompatible changes.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
I guess I have more confidence in Python 3 than you do. I don't see<br>
why Python 2.x needs to be artificially limited so that Python 3 can<br>
benefit.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don't view it as artificial but simply a focusing of the development team on what has been determined as the future of Python by Guido and letting go of the past.</div><div>
<br></div><div>IMO keeping Python 2.x around past 2.7 is the equivalent of python-dev saying "Python 3 is the future, but we are keeping the old Python 2.x around because we don't have *that* much faith in the future we have laid out". That's poison to Python 3 by showing a lack of confidence in the direction that the BDFL and python-dev as a group has chosen. Now I could be wrong and there could actually be a large number of active contributors who want to keep the 2.x series going, but based on the discussion that occurred the last time this came up I believe the guys who are keeping Python running are ready to move on.</div>
<div><br></div><div>-Brett</div></div>