<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">On Nov 14, 2012, at 2:23 AM, Ronald Oussoren <<a href="mailto:ronaldoussoren@mac.com">ronaldoussoren@mac.com</a>> wrote:</div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><div><span></span><br><span>On 13 Nov, 2012, at 17:21, Antoine Pitrou <<a href="mailto:solipsis@pitrou.net">solipsis@pitrou.net</a>> wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Le Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:10:30 +0100,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Ronald Oussoren <<a href="mailto:ronaldoussoren@mac.com">ronaldoussoren@mac.com</a>> a écrit :</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 13 Nov, 2012, at 16:00, Daniel Holth <<a href="mailto:dholth@gmail.com">dholth@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I want to remove distutils from the standard library.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Why? Distutils may not be perfect, but is usable for basic packages.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>It could even be enhanced to support these peps and be even more</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>useable, although patches for that would run into the self-imposed</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>freeze of distutils development.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>It wouldn't be totally unreasonable to start a project named</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"distutils2" to build the next-generation distutils library.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Oops :-)</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>Or carefully enhance distutils itself. Rewriting distutils in one go seems</span><br><span>to be too ambitious with the limited resources available to do so. </span><br></div></blockquote><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">That has been tried already (setuptools, distribute, distutils2). Instead, try bento (</span><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: none; font-family: '.HelveticaNeueUI'; font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><a href="http://cournape.github.com/Bento/">http://cournape.github.com/Bento/</a>). </span><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: none; font-family: '.HelveticaNeueUI'; font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></div><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: none; font-family: '.HelveticaNeueUI'; font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">Hilariously everyone I've showed it to is immediately put off by the indentation based syntax (who would use such a thing?) but the project has a few years of effort behind it and is well designed.</span><div><blockquote type="cite" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><div><span></span></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>