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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Reading the defect, I find people being unnecessarily obstructive.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Closing the ticket, twice, is a rude, and unnecessary action. How about acknowledging that these waters are dark and murky and help making things better?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Surely, documenting processes can only be an improvement?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">A lot has changed in open source development in the last 10 years. The processes we have are starting to have the air of cathedral around them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Python-Dev [mailto:python-dev-bounces+kristjan=ccpgames.com@python.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Guido van Rossum<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28. nóvember 2013 18:40<br>
<b>To:</b> anatoly techtonik<br>
<b>Cc:</b> python-dev<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Python-Dev] PEP process entry point and ill fated initiatives<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Anatoly, the Python community is a lot more diverse than you think. "Pull requests" (whatever that means) are not the way to start a PEP. You should start by focusing on the contents, and the mechanics of editing it and getting it formatted
properly are secondary. The process is explained in PEP one. Your bug report would have gotten a much better response if you had simply asked "what is the process, I can't figure it out from the repo's README" rather that (again) complaining that the core
developers don't care. Offending people is not the way to get them to help you.<o:p></o:p></p>
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