<div dir="ltr"><div><div>May the true owner of <a href="http://buildbot.python.org">buildbot.python.org</a> stand up!<br><br></div><div>(But I do think there may well not be anyone who feels they own it. And that's a problem for its long term viability.)<br>
</div><div><br></div>Generally speaking, as an organization we should set up a process for managing ownership of *all* infrastructure in a uniform way. I don't mean to say that we need to manage all infrastructure uniformly, just that we need to have a process for identifying and contacting the owner(s) for each piece of infrastructure, as well as collecting other information that people besides the owners might need to know. You can use a wiki page for that list for all I care, but have a process for what belongs there, how/when to update it, and even an owner for the wiki page! Stuff like this shouldn't be just in a few people's heads (even if they are board members) nor should it be in a file in a repo that nobody has ever heard of.<br>
</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:33 AM, Donald Stufft <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:donald@stufft.io" target="_blank">donald@stufft.io</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div class=""><div><br></div><div><div>On Jul 8, 2014, at 12:58 AM, Nick Coghlan <<a href="mailto:ncoghlan@gmail.com" target="_blank">ncoghlan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<p dir="ltr"><br>On 7 Jul 2014 10:47, "Guido van Rossum" <<a href="mailto:guido@python.org" target="_blank">guido@python.org</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> It would still be nice to know who "the appropriate persons" are. Too much of our infrastructure seems to be maintained by house elves or the ITA.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I volunteered to be the board's liaison to the infrastructure team, and getting more visibility around what the infrastructure *is* and how it's monitored and supported is going to be part of that. That will serve a couple of key purposes:</p>
<p dir="ltr">- making the points of escalation clearer if anything breaks or needs improvement (although "<a href="mailto:infrastructure@python.org" target="_blank">infrastructure@python.org</a>" is a good default choice)<br>
- making the current "todo" list of the infrastructure team more visible (both to calibrate resolution time expectations and to provide potential contributors an idea of what's involved)</p><p dir="ltr">Noah has already set up<span> </span><a href="http://status.python.org/" target="_blank">http://status.python.org/</a><span> </span>to track service status, I can see about getting<span> </span><a href="http://buildbot.python.org/" target="_blank">buildbot.python.org</a><span> </span>added to the list.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Cheers,<br>Nick.<br><br></p></div></blockquote></div><br></div><div><div>We (the infrastructure team) were actually looking earlier about</div><div><a href="http://buildbot.python.org" target="_blank">buildbot.python.org</a> and we’re not entirely sure who "owns" <a href="http://buildbot.python.org" target="_blank">buildbot.python.org</a>.</div>
<div>Unfortunately a lot of the *.<a href="http://python.org" target="_blank">python.org</a> services are in a similar state where</div><div>there is no clear owner. Generally we've not wanted to just step in and take</div>
<div>over for fear of stepping on someones toes but it appears that perhaps</div><div>buildbot.p.o has no owner?</div></div><div>
<br>-----------------<br>Donald Stufft<br>PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA
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<br></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>--Guido van Rossum (<a href="http://python.org/~guido">python.org/~guido</a>)
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