<br><br>On Saturday, December 10, 2016, Wes Turner <<a href="mailto:wes.turner@gmail.com">wes.turner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">s/python/pythone28000/g. There; now I can read the diff's.<br><br>On Saturday, December 10, 2016, Wes Turner <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wes.turner@gmail.com');" target="_blank">wes.turner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br><br>On Saturday, December 10, 2016, M.-A. Lemburg <<a>mal@egenix.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 10.12.2016 10:05, David Mertz wrote:<br>
> I'm forwarding this to the PSF Trademarks committee. If there is a<br>
> violation, it's a misuse of trademark, not copyright on the code which has<br>
> the Python license stack.<br>
><br>
> I'm on that committee and agree this is improper use. Let's see what other<br>
> members think.<br>
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Our trademark policy for the word mark Python does allow<br>
for such use and without asking for permissions:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.python.org/psf/trademarks/" target="_blank">https://www.python.org/psf/tra<wbr>demarks/</a><br>
"""<br>
...<br>
As such, stating accurately that software is written in the Python<br>
programming language, that it is compatible with the Python programming<br>
language, or that it contains the Python programming language, is always<br>
allowed. In those cases, you may use the word "Python" or the unaltered<br>
logos to indicate this, without our prior approval. This is true both<br>
for non-commercial and commercial uses.<br>
<br>
This clause overrides other clauses of this policy.<br>
...<br>
"""<br>
<br>
and this is on purpose, since Python is BSD software which<br>
anyone can use, modify, fork, etc.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>So, otherwise everyone who forks for any reason is in violation of the trademark policy?</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
The fork also contains a list of differences compared to<br>
Python 2.7 as shipped by the PSF, so the license is fulfilled<br>
as well:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://github.com/naftaliharris/python2.8" target="_blank">https://github.com/naftaliharr<wbr>is/python2.8</a></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This could be easier (and linked-to):</div><div><a href="https://github.com/naftaliharris/python2.8/compare/master...python/cpython:2.7" target="_blank">https://github.com/naftaliharr<wbr>is/python2.8/compare/master...<wbr>python/cpython:2.7</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/python/cpython/compare/2.7...naftaliharris/python2.8:master" target="_blank">https://github.com/python/cpyt<wbr>hon/compare/2.7...naftaliharri<wbr>s/python2.8:master</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>git rebase -i?</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
All that said, I still believe we should contact the author<br>
and ask for a name change to make it clear to our users that<br>
the PSF is not endorsing this fork, nor does it provide<br>
support for it:</blockquote><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";background-color:rgb(250,250,250)">From README.md: "Python 2.8 is licensed under the Python Software License, (see the LICENSE file for details). This is not an official Python release; see </span><a href="https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0404/" style="color:rgb(64,120,192);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";background-color:rgb(250,250,250)" target="_blank">PEP 404</a><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";background-color:rgb(250,250,250)">."</span><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";background-color:rgb(250,250,250)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(250,250,250)"><font color="#333333" face="-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, Apple Color Emoji, Segoe UI Emoji, Segoe UI Symbol"><a href="https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0404/" target="_blank">https://www.python.org/dev/pep<wbr>s/pep-0404/</a></font><br></span></div><div></div></blockquote></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Helpfully, what could this also say?<br></div><div><br></div><div>- Not supported</div><div>- Not approved</div><div>- Links to cpython hg and git</div><div>- </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Regardless of the name, it'll be interesting to see whether<br>
there's demand for such a fork. Without a website, binaries<br>
to download, documentation, etc. it's still in the very early<br>
stages.</blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>What could've been! (Intimidating an incompatible fork would be somewhat hypocritical at this point).</div><div><br></div><div>Do you really think it appropriate to demand a name change because you disagree with the fork's backward compatibility?</div><div><br></div><div>What a useful list of new features (and potential backports), IMHO</div><div> </div><div><a href="https://pypi.python.org/pypi/backports" target="_blank">https://pypi.python.org/pypi/b<wbr>ackports</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/naftaliharris/python2.8/compare/asyncio" target="_blank">https://github.com/naftaliharr<wbr>is/python2.8/compare/asyncio</a><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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