<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Masklinn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:masklinn@masklinn.net">masklinn@masklinn.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">On 2012-01-11, at 14:55 , anatoly techtonik wrote:<br>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Antoine Pitrou <<a href="mailto:solipsis@pitrou.net">solipsis@pitrou.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:16:09 +0300<br>
>> anatoly techtonik <<a href="mailto:techtonik@gmail.com">techtonik@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> So I propose to have a summary for each thread in Etherpad -<br>
>>> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etherpad" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etherpad</a> - that will provide current<br>
>> current<br>
>>> summary of email thread, describing original problem, its evolution,<br>
>>> arguments and counter-arguments.<br>
>><br>
>> Are you willing to maintain it? Feel free to create and update etherpad<br>
>> summaries for a few of our current discussion threads, so that we see<br>
>> if that's useful.<br>
>><br>
><br>
> The idea is about collaborative service, not a "community job offer" for<br>
> single person, responsible to maintain and update summaries for email<br>
> threads on some wiki page.<br>
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</div>That does not preclude maintaining: </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
1. Somebody needs to handle the hardware and software stack, check that the load is acceptable, test software updates and deploy them, handle ACLs if any, …<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Does that mean that the idea is good enough to start talking about problems with infrastructure and maintenance? =)</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
2. Information is not going to self-organize over the whole platform, people will need to keep track of the various documents being created and provide an entry point for the service (linking to various sub-trees)<br></blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>That's right. The idea is to provide an automatic service tied to each email thread, meaning that email threads must be identified first. Then - you're right - there must be a web interface of the entry point that lists threads with pointers to the corresponding Etherpad page. This can further list auxiliary flags, for example if thread was updated after the last change in Etherpad. Etherpad interface then can be tweaked further to implement "approval" system that let's every user place a "tick" next to the reference to a message that the user believes is integrated into summary correctly (or flag messages that are completely missing).</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
3. Open-edition systems (wikis, etherpad instances, …) are subject to vandalism, spam and edit wars, there needs to be people and tools able to manage both issues, cleanup the crap in the first two cases and potentially temporarily lock documents in the latter.<br>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>In this case it is possible to limit access to <a href="http://python.org">python.org</a> accounts. Is it possible? Is there a central login server for <a href="http://python.org">python.org</a>?</div>
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You're the one who brought it up and suggested it would be a valuable tool, the onus is on you to demonstrate it and it makes sense that you'd be the one maintaining it until then.<br></blockquote><div><br></div>
<div>I only proposed the idea. If you think this tool won't be valuable then I am open to discuss why. If it is only because I failed to make it a valuable tool then I can make it even more obvious by saying - yes, I will not be able to create a valuable tool out of it alone.</div>
</div>-- <br>anatoly t.<br>