<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Jun 8, 2016, 03:57 Thomas Güttler <<a href="mailto:guettliml@thomas-guettler.de">guettliml@thomas-guettler.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
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Am 07.06.2016 um 17:26 schrieb Guido van Rossum:<br>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:42 AM, Thomas Güttler <<a href="mailto:guettliml@thomas-guettler.de" target="_blank">guettliml@thomas-guettler.de</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:guettliml@thomas-guettler.de" target="_blank">guettliml@thomas-guettler.de</a>>> wrote:<br>
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> Am 04.06.2016 um 10:27 schrieb Neil Schemenauer:<br>
> > I can't understand why people don't see<br>
> > we have a problem.<br>
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> Imagine you are father of a three years old boy. Some stranger<br>
> tells you: "your kid is ugly!"<br>
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> Just in case you didn't realize this can be turned around too, that's exactly how it feels to *me* when people complain<br>
> about Python 3.<br>
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Yes, this hurts. But nevertheless you listen and try to understand<br>
the reasons. That's why Python is successful. Thank you Guido!<br>
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> How does the average man react? Some get sad, some get angry.<br>
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> Only very few would ask: Why do you think my kid is ugly?<br>
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> I am not married with Python. Up to now I see no alternative for me,<br>
> but I guess sooner or later I will switch to a different<br>
> language.<br>
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> I see only few benefits from porting my code to Python3. I will<br>
> use Python2 at least for the next 12 months.<br>
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> That sounds like a threat (or another underhanded insult), but it's really up to you.<br>
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From Wikipedia: ... a devil's advocate is someone who, given a certain argument, takes a position they do not<br>
necessarily agree with (or simply an alternative position from the accepted norm), for the sake of debate or to explore<br>
the thought further.<br></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>The point is that you don't state you're playing devil's advocate and you phrase your statements in such a way that they can be (mis)construed as an insult. There's nothing wrong with stating the other view of a discussion, but you still have to take care to state it politely.</div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Back to Python3: I compare the 3.2 and current docs about "Porting Python 2 Code to Python 3"<br>
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<a href="https://docs.python.org/3.2/howto/pyporting.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.python.org/3.2/howto/pyporting.html</a><br>
<a href="https://docs.python.org/3.5/howto/pyporting.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.python.org/3.5/howto/pyporting.html</a><br>
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The 3.2 version started with "Choosing a Strategy" the current docs start with "1. ..., 2. ..., 3. ..."<br>
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I read the porting docs years ago, and I was not able to choose a strategy. I was unsure. (sheeps don't like fog)<br>
I think, at least sometimes, docs are more important than code.<br>
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The current docs give me a nice roadmap. I will follow them, but not in 2016.<br></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>I changed the docs when it became obvious the community had chosen the 2/3 support structure for porting code.</div><div><br></div><div>-brett</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Regards,<br>
Thomas Güttler<br>
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Regards,<br>
Thomas Güttler<br>
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