<p dir="ltr">... actually, thank you Sven (but Mark also. And all the contributors to the discussion, even those I disagree with).</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 16, 2016 10:47 AM, "David Mertz" <<a href="mailto:mertz@gnosis.cx">mertz@gnosis.cx</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Actually, I agree with Marietta. I don't care whatsoever about mocking me, which was a certain element of it. I have thick skin and am confident in these conversations.</p>
<p dir="ltr">The part that was probably over the line was mocking children who learn to program or those who teach them. That's a huge and great job. I know I would not have the skill to teach children effectively. Adults with technical expertise are much easier for me.</p>
<p dir="ltr">That said, thank you Mark for your empirical research with a test subject.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Best, David</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 16, 2016 9:39 AM, "Mark Lawrence via Python-ideas" <<a href="mailto:python-ideas@python.org" target="_blank">python-ideas@python.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 16/10/2016 16:41, Mariatta Wijaya wrote:<br>
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Her reaction was hilarious:<br>
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"Whom does he teach? Children?"<br>
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I sense mockery in your email, and it does not conform to the PSF code<br>
of conduct. Please read the CoC before posting in this mailing list. The<br>
link is available at the bottom of every python mailing list<br>
email.<a href="https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.python.org/p<wbr>sf/codeofconduct/</a><br>
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I don't find teaching children is a laughing matter, neither is the idea<br>
of children learning to code.<br>
In Canada, we have initiatives like Girls Learning Code and Kids<br>
Learning Code. I mentored in a couple of those events and the students<br>
are girls aged 8-14. They surprised me with their abilities to learn. I<br>
would suggest looking for such mentoring opportunities in your area to<br>
gain appreciation with this regard.<br>
Thanks.<br>
(Sorry to derail everyone from the topic of list comprehension. Please<br>
continue!)<br>
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The RUE was allowed to insult the community for years and got away with it. I'm autistic, stepped across the line, and got hammered. Hypocrisy at its best. Even funnier, the BDFL has asked for my advice in recent weeks with respect to the bug tracker. I've replied, giving the bare minimum that I feel I can give within the circumstances.<br>
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Yours most disgustingly.<br>
<br>
Mark Lawrence.<br>
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