<div dir="ltr">On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Chris Angelico <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rosuav@gmail.com" target="_blank">rosuav@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> I have no specific qualifications, but I teach online;</blockquote><div><br></div><div>nor do I, and I teach for a continuing ed program -- not in high school.<br><br></div><div>But anyway, regardless of official qualifications, good programmers are not neccesray good teachers of programming. At all.<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">If it takes a credentialed teacher to get a job in a school, so<br>
be it - but at least make sure it's someone who knows how to interpret<br>
the error messages, so that any student who runs into trouble can ask<br>
the prof.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Exactly -- you can't be credentialed to teach Biology, or French, or.... without knowing the subject. That may not yet be true for computer science, as it is still "new" in high school curriculum, but it's still not Python's job to overcome that.<br><br></div><div>All the being said -- I don't think we should try to tailor error messages specifically for newbies in the core interpreter, and the error messages have gotten a lot better with py3, but they could still use some improvement -- I would say that suggestions are welcome.<br><br></div><div>And if they can be made (more) machine readable, so that an beginners IDE would enhance them, that would be great.<br></div><div><br></div><div>-CHB<br></div></div><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><br>Christopher Barker, Ph.D.<br>Oceanographer<br><br>Emergency Response Division<br>NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice<br>7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax<br>Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception<br><br><a href="mailto:Chris.Barker@noaa.gov" target="_blank">Chris.Barker@noaa.gov</a></div>
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