<div dir="ltr">I don't think an informational PEP would make threads like Python Review shorter and/or more productive. The OP clearly didn't do much research, so it seems unlikely he would read an informational PEP. Moreover, the bikeshedding about what goes into this PEP will inevitably lead to a troll who isn't satisfied with the explanation of a particular item, or notices that a particular item isn't included in the PEP, and then we're right back to the same problem: litigating Python complaints that have already been discussed many times on this list.<div><br></div><div>We can't change everybody on the internet, but we might be able to change our own behavior.</div><div>In that spirit, maybe we just need a canned reply that can be used when a thread has indicators of low quality:</div><div><br></div><div>> Hi, this appears to be your first post to python-ideas. This purpose of this list is to discuss speculative language ideas for Python. If an idea gains traction, it can then be discussed and honed into a detailed proposal. Your post does not fit with the purpose of the list, either because it is too broad or because it doesn't contain enough technical details about your proposal. You may wish to improve your proposal by focusing on a single subject, researching historical conversations on that subject, and adding more technical details. Alternatively, you may wish to post on python-list[1] instead, which is a general purpose list that does not have the same constraints as this list.</div><div>></div><div>> As a reminder to other list users, please do not encourage low-quality posts by engaging with them.</div><div>> </div><div>> 1. <a href="https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list">https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list</a></div><div><br></div><div>Stack Overflow does something similar, where they have canned responses to low-quality questions. This makes it easy for the community to self-moderate in a respectful manner.</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Eric Fahlgren <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ericfahlgren@gmail.com" target="_blank">ericfahlgren@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 8:28 PM, Chris Barker <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris.barker@noaa.gov" target="_blank">chris.barker@noaa.gov</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Many of the things people (newbies, mostly) complain about are simply taste, or legacy that isn't worth changing.<br></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">A lot of that sort of thing is idiomatic, so I point people here and say "just do it that way and you'll be happier in the long run."</div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><a href="http://stupidpythonideas.blogspot.com/2015/05/why-following-idioms-matters.html" target="_blank">http://stupidpythonideas.<wbr>blogspot.com/2015/05/why-<wbr>following-idioms-matters.html</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div></div></div></div>
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