<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 9:22 PM, Chris Angelico <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rosuav@gmail.com" target="_blank">rosuav@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">For what it's worth, I'm in favour of Steven's "too negative" approach<br>
- or rather, I don't think his style is too negative. Yes, it's a bit<br>
rough and uncomfortable to be on the receiving end of it, but it's<br>
exactly correct. All three of the statements you quote are either<br>
provably true from the emails in this thread, or are at least<br>
plausible. If you think he's wrong to say them, *say so*, and ask him<br>
to justify them.<br>
<br>
Perhaps what we need is a "falsehoods programmers believe about<br>
python-ideas" collection. I'll start it:<br>
<br>
* All ideas are worthy of respect.<br>
* My use-case is enough justification for adding something to the language.<br>
* Criticism is bad. Ideas should be welcomed just because they're ideas.<br>...snip...</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don't think Ken actually made any of the false assumptions you've listed here, so it's a bit harsh to post that list in this thread. This list is for "speculative language ideas" and "discussion". Ken has met that standard. </div><div><br></div><div>The topic of tone is interesting, and a broader discussion of how to use python-ideas for newcomers and regulars alike is probably overdue, just not in this thread.</div></div></div></div>