<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Carl Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carl.input@gmail.com" target="_blank">carl.input@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span class=""><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">> <span class="m_8028006585279762232gmail-im" style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">Not if you need to make changes in the same tens of thousands of lines file.</span></span></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span class="m_8028006585279762232gmail-im" style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><br></span></span></div></span><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="m_8028006585279762232gmail-im" style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">But what has that got to do with the the syntax of the new code? The old code is</font></span></span></div><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="m_8028006585279762232gmail-im" style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">what it is.</font></span></span></div><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="m_8028006585279762232gmail-im" style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></span></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div></div><div>Again, because you end up with hard-to-debug issues through no fault of your own.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="m_8028006585279762232gmail-im" style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"></font></span></span></div><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="m_8028006585279762232gmail-im" style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">I did think after I replied that `True` wasn't actually reserved until more recently, but</font></span></span></div><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="m_8028006585279762232gmail-im" style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">the point still stands: You would be able to reference the name *as defined* in an</font></span></span></div><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="m_8028006585279762232gmail-im" style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">external library, and yeah, it could refer to anything, but that's kinda the point. We</font></span></span></div><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><span class="m_8028006585279762232gmail-im" style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">have to assume the library does something </span></span><span style="font-size:12.8px">sane with the name. We can't preempt</span></font></div><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">an employee sabotaging `True`.</font></span></div><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div dir="ltr">We can and do preempt someone sabotaging a keywords by not letting anyone override them.  That is the whole point of using reserved keywords.  Some languages allow you to change important words, some don't.  Guido made a conscious decision to make certain words keywords, and to not let anyone change them, I believe to avoid the sorts of issues I have brought up.  You are talking about removing one of the most important and long-standing protections the language has in place.  That is not a small change.<span class=""><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div></span><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"></font></span></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_extra"><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_8028006585279762232gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(115,115,115);font-style:italic;line-height:18px"><font face="monospace, monospace" size="1">-- Carl Smith</font></span><br></div></div><div><span style="color:rgb(115,115,115);font-style:italic;line-height:18px"><font face="monospace, monospace" size="1"><a href="mailto:carl.input@gmail.com" target="_blank">carl.input@gmail.com</a></font></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></font></span><div><div class="h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 May 2018 at 16:40, Niki Spahiev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:niki.spahiev@gmail.com" target="_blank">niki.spahiev@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On 16.05.2018 16:05, Andrés Delfino wrote:<br>
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IMHO, it would be much easier to learn and understand if keywords can only<br>
be used by escaping them, instead of depending where they occur.<br>
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There can be 2 escape characters '\' and '.'<span class="m_8028006585279762232HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Niki</font></span><div class="m_8028006585279762232HOEnZb"><div class="m_8028006585279762232h5"><br>
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