<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Sorry, hit send by accident. I meant to say:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="monospace, monospace"> do_something(v) <b>if</b> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:monospace,monospace;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none;display:inline">v != INCONVENIENT_SENTINEL </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:monospace,monospace;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none;display:inline"><b>else break</b></span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:monospace,monospace;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"></font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(115,115,115);font-style:italic;line-height:18px"><font size="1" face="monospace, monospace">-- Carl Smith</font></span><br></div></div><div><span style="color:rgb(115,115,115);font-style:italic;line-height:18px"><font size="1" face="monospace, monospace"><a href="mailto:carl.input@gmail.com" target="_blank">carl.input@gmail.com</a></font></span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 21 May 2018 at 13:37, Carl Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carl.input@gmail.com" target="_blank">carl.input@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><blockquote style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;font-size:12.8px">v = get_something()</span><br></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><font face="monospace, monospace">while v != INCONVENIENT_SENTINEL:</font></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> do_something(v)</font></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> v = get_something()</font></div></div></blockquote><br></span></div></span><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">I'd personally go with:</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><font face="monospace, monospace"> while True:</font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><font face="monospace, monospace"> v = get_something()</font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="monospace, monospace"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"> if v != INCONVENIENT_SENTINEL: break</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"> do_something(v)</span></font><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="monospace, monospace"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">But it's not much different. I'd really like to be able to use jump statements</font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">in ternary expressions, like:</font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> do_something(v)</font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">But that's another story.</font></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_1085501397716793244gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(115,115,115);font-style:italic;line-height:18px"><font size="1" face="monospace, monospace">-- Carl Smith</font></span><br></div></div><div><span style="color:rgb(115,115,115);font-style:italic;line-height:18px"><font size="1" face="monospace, monospace"><a href="mailto:carl.input@gmail.com" target="_blank">carl.input@gmail.com</a></font></span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br></font></span><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On 21 May 2018 at 13:22, Juancarlo Añez <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:apalala@gmail.com" target="_blank">apalala@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr"><span><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
while ((v = get_something()) != INCONVENIENT_SENTINEL)<br>
do_something(v);<br></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></span><div class="gmail_extra"><div>The current pattern in Python would be something like:</div><div><br></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><font face="monospace, monospace">v = get_something()</font></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><font face="monospace, monospace">while v != INCONVENIENT_SENTINEL:</font></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> do_something(v)</font></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> v = get_something()</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"><br></font></div></div></blockquote><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">With "as" allowed in "while", they pattern might be:</font><div><br></div><div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_extra"><font face="monospace, monospace">while get_something() as v:</font></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_extra"><font face="monospace, monospace"> if v == INCONVENIENT_SENTINEL:</font></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_extra"><font face="monospace, monospace"> break</font></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_extra"><font face="monospace, monospace"> do_something(v)</font></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><font face="monospace, monospace"><br></font></div></blockquote><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">The discussion isn't over, so it could also be:</font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><blockquote style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_extra"><font face="monospace, monospace">while (get_something() as v) != </font><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">INCONVENIENT_SENTINEL:</span></div></blockquote><blockquote style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_extra"><font face="monospace, monospace"> do_something(v)</font></div></blockquote><blockquote style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><font face="monospace, monospace"><br></font></blockquote><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font></div>Cheers,</font><span class="m_1085501397716793244HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">-- <br><div class="m_1085501397716793244m_4782509893361397032gmail_signature"><span style="color:rgb(0,102,0)">Juancarlo </span><b style="color:rgb(0,102,0)">Añez</b></div>
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