<div dir="ltr">[Dan Sommers] <div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">A mailing list is not a feed... Dan, a decades and decades long fan of mailing lists and real email clients.</blockquote><br>I'm only familiar with Gmail which keeps reply chains coherent and moves each chain to the top of my "forums" tab based on who responded last.<br>I haven't explored the various email clients available, can you suggest one?<br><br>[Dan Sommers] <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Whoever posted last ends up at the bottom of the thread, so that I can<br>read threads from top to bottom in chronological order. Getting the<br>last word in shouldn't earn a spot at the top of the list.</blockquote><div><br>That doesn't like any closer an approximation to a merit-based solution to me.<br><br>[Dan Sommers]<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">> 3) There are well moderated and/or cultivated subs like<br></span><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">></span><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"> </span><a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/science" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.reddit.com/r/science</a><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"> </span><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">where the votes end up being a good</span><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"> <br></span><span class="gmail-im" style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">approximation<br></span><span class="gmail-im" style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">> to merit.</span><span class="gmail-im" style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"><br></span>Because the moderators understand the merit(s) of who is behind every +1<br>vote, or because only approved voters are allowed to vote?</blockquote><div><br>Part of it has to do with the subject matter.<br>the <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/python">python subreddit</a> also has, I would say, higher quality than average discussion</div><div>just like the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSKzgpt4HBU">PBS Space Time YouTube channel</a> is one of the few places on YouTube<br>where the comments don't generally make you abandon hope for the future of humanity.</div><div><br>A lot of it has to do with rules put in place and enforced by the moderators.<br>They cultivate a higher quality community by promoting a higher standard of interaction.<br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 1:34 PM Dan Sommers <<a href="mailto:2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE@potatochowder.com">2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE@potatochowder.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 2/1/19 1:01 PM, Abe Dillon wrote:<br>
> [Steven D'Aprano]<br>
><br>
>> This isn't Facebook or Reddit, where +1 Likes cause messages to move<br>
>> to the top of your feed. (And thank goodness for that.) This is a<br>
>> technical mailing list where the worth of a proposals usually depends<br>
>> on merit, not the number of votes.<br>
><br>
> Since I just (almost simultaneously with this post) suggested giving<br>
> Reddit a try, I feel obligated to defend it a little bit.<br>
<br>
[...]<br>
<br>
> 2) You can control, to some degree, what gets to the top of your<br>
> feed. In an email list, it's based on who posted last which seems<br>
> hardly an improvement.<br>
<br>
A mailing list is not a feed.<br>
<br>
Whoever posted last ends up at the bottom of the thread, so that I can<br>
read threads from top to bottom in chronological order. Getting the<br>
last word in shouldn't earn a spot at the top of the list.<br>
<br>
In my email client, I do, in fact, have complete control over what gets<br>
to the [logical] "top of the list"; in a web-based forum, I have only<br>
what the forum allows.<br>
<br>
> 3) There are well moderated and/or cultivated subs like<br>
> <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/science" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.reddit.com/r/science</a> where the votes end up being a good <br>
approximation<br>
> to merit.<br>
<br>
Because the moderators understand the merit(s) of who is behind every +1<br>
vote, or because only approved voters are allowed to vote?<br>
<br>
Dan, a decades and decades long fan of mailing lists and real email clients<br>
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