str() should convert ANY object to a string without EXCEPTIONS !
electronixtar at gmail.com
Sun Sep 28 13:09:30 CEST 2008
On Sep 28, 6:15 pm, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <bj_... at gmx.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 01:35:11 -0700, est wrote:
> >> Because that's how ASCII is defined.
> >> Because that's how ASCII is defined. ASCII is a 7-bit code.
> > Then why can't python use another default encoding internally
> > range(256)?
> Because that doesn't suffice. Unicode code points can be >255.
> > If Python choose another default encoding which handles range(256), 80%
> > of python unicode encoding problems are gone.
> 80% of *your* problems with it *seems* to be gone then.
> > It's not HARD to process unicode, it's just python & python community
> > refuse to correct it.
> It is somewhat hard to deal with unicode because many don't want to think
> about it or don't grasp the relationship between encodings, byte values,
> and characters. Including you.
> >> stop dreaming of a magic solution
> > It's not 'magic' it's a BUG. Just print 0x7F to 0xFF to console, what's
> > wrong????
> What do you mean by "just print 0x7F to 0xFF"? For example if I have ``s
> = u'Smørebrød™'`` what bytes should ``str(s)`` produce and why those and
> not others?
> >> Isn't that more or less the same as telling the OP to use unicode()
> >> instead of str()?
> > sockets could handle str() only. If you throw unicode objects to a
> > socket, it will automatically call str() and cause an error.
> Because *you* have to tell explicitly how the unicode object should be
> encoded as bytes. Python can't do this automatically because it has *no
> idea* what the process at the other end of the socket expects.
> Now you are complaining that Python chooses ASCII. If it is changed to
> something else, like MBCS, others start complaining why it is MBCS and
> not something different. See: No fix, just moving the problem to someone
> Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
Well, you succeseded in putting all blame to myself alone. Great.
When you guy's are dealing with CJK characters in the future, you'll
find out what I mean.
In fact Boa Constructor keeps prompting ASCII and range(128) error on
my Windows. That's pretty cool.
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