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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>On Jan 19,
12:22 pm, </FONT><A href=""><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3>pa...@cruzio.com</FONT></A><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>
wrote:<BR><BR>> Who or what group is actually in charge of what libraries
(and programming<BR>> commands/methods such as the Python 3.x rewrite of
'print') goes into<BR>> Python? <BR><BR>Well it comes down to "Guido, some
Guys, and a mailing list". see this<BR>link fro more
detail...<BR><BR> </FONT><A
href="http://www.python.org/dev/intro/"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3>http://www.python.org/dev/intro/</FONT></A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Well that
explains Everything!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><BR><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>> Is this huge
discussion really a few feature requests for<BR>> additional libraries to be
included for Windows programming?<BR><BR>No, this HUGE discussion is primarily
about the worth of Tkinter as<BR>our chosen GUI module and whether or not we
should replace it. It also<BR>contains (and rightly so!) undertones as to the
lost vision within<BR>this community as a whole. Not to mention the missing
cohesiveness to<BR>move forward in the correct direction.<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>I see why you say this. I
think I am playing catchup with what has been going on for some time amongst you
all. </DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>> And aren't<BR>> some of these libraries developed by 3rd
parties? <BR><BR>Yes Python has many 3rd party packages available. You
should<BR>familiarize yourself with both the current stdlib AND the
packages<BR>list. Both are here...<BR><BR> </FONT><A
href=""><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3>http://pypi.python.org/pypi?:action=index</FONT></A><BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3> </FONT><A href=""><FONT
face="Times New Roman"
size=3>http://docs.python.org/release/3.0.1/modindex.html</FONT></A><BR><BR><BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3>> And how is that handled<BR>> by the people
in charge? Do they have to pay to license it or is this all<BR>> freely
contributed software?<BR><BR>This statement needs clarification because i cannot
decide if you are<BR>asking from a Python stdlib perspective or a 3rd party
package<BR>perspective. In any event Python and the stdlib should be all free
and<BR>open software. And shame on anyone who releases closed
source<BR>software!<BR><BR>Shame on you greedies! Shame on you!
>:(<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>And I am coming from background working
at SCO for commercial SCO Unix and also commercial applications software.
So free software is not something I am used to :) And understand what is
involved with obtaining 3rd party pieces either by necessity or because of an
acquistion. And the money part. It was complicated. So I
was thinking from the python stdlib perspective. But your comment turned
my thinking around to where it should be to discuss open source
software. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3> I don't think I am ready for the
py-dev mailing list yet ;) But I do have some big ideas because of UCSC
(University of California, Santa Cruz) being so close, their Computer
Engineering Dept. is Really Good and I have some connections up
there.....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Patty</FONT></DIV>
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