Thanks. I understand what you're saying, but personally I'd like to have Ubuntu own site-packages, and have everything required for each project installed via VirtualEnv: <div><br></div><div>- A large part of a lot of OSs (particularly Linux and OS X) uses python, and therefore site-packages, and there's been a few cases of apps trashing site packages that were used by the OS (this isn't Python specific, and could just as well occur with Ruby gems if you were using puppet).</div>
<div><br></div><div>- I like the Ubuntu security updates and knowing everything outside my own development environment is taken care of</div><div><br></div><div>- My app can still get whatever it wants inside the virtualenv, and I have the ease of deployment associated with having and independent site-packages.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers (and thanks again for your help),</div><div><br></div><div>Mike</div><div><br><div><div><div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Ed Stafford <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:walter.stafford@carbonsixty.co.uk">walter.stafford@carbonsixty.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Mike,<br><br>Glad it worked for you. Although the Ubuntu team does a fine job of package management I'm still a bit hesitant to use their python packages. It's easy enough using vanilla python to get everything you need going. In the future you can do the following just as easily.<br>
<br>`wget <a href="http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py%60" target="_blank">http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py`</a><br>`sudo python ez_setup.py`<br>`sudo easy_install pip virtualenv virtualenvwrapper`<br>
<br>Then continue on your way using virtual environments and pip.<br>
<br>Cheers,<br><font color="#888888">-Ed</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 30 March 2010 21:38, Mike MacCana <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mike.maccana@gmail.com" target="_blank">mike.maccana@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>Walter, you are a god amongst men.</div><div><br></div><div>It turns out this is a bug in Ubuntu 10.4's virtualenv package. See </div><div><a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-virtualenv/+bug/517390" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-virtualenv/+bug/517390</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>But your advice has successfully worked around it.</div><div><br></div><div>For anyone else wanting a quick method to get pip + virtualenv running on Ubuntu 10,4, here's what I did to get things working:</div>
<div><br></div>1. aptitude install python-virtualenv and python-setuptools packages<div>2. easy_install pip</div><div>3. easy_install virtualenv-wrapper</div><div>4. mkvirtualenv <project></div><div>5. pip -E <project> install <python module></div>
<div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div>Mike</div></font><div><div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Ed Stafford <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:walter.stafford@carbonsixty.co.uk" target="_blank">walter.stafford@carbonsixty.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Mike,<br><br>You should really use easy_install to install pip under your main python site-packages along with virtualenv/virtualenvwrapper and then use PIP after you mkvirtualenv. PIP is aware of virtual environments so you shouldn't have any trouble in this regard.<br>
<br>Basically, install PIP in your global (main) site-packages, not your virtual environment.<br><br>Another nice lib to use is yolk, which you can use to spit out what and where various python packages are installed.<br>
<br>Hope this helps.<br><br>Cheers,<br>-Ed<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div>On 30 March 2010 21:12, Mike MacCana <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mike.maccana@gmail.com" target="_blank">mike.maccana@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div></div><div>
Hey UK Pythonistas,<div><br></div><div>In accordance with the new directives issed at <a href="http://s3.pixane.com/python_comrades.png" target="_blank">http://s3.pixane.com/python_comrades.png</a>, I've installed virtualenv and virtualenv_wrapper, made, and activated a project like so:</div>
<div><br></div><div><div># mkvirtualenv imeveryone</div><div># workon imeveryone</div></div><div><br></div><div>However using the easy_install inside the virtualenv to install pip doesn't seem to be working. But easy_install inside the virtualenv does successfully install other packages (eg, I tried installing ipython and it was fine). </div>
<div><br></div><div>Am I doing something wrong? I'm not really experienced with the various Python packaging tools.</div><div><br></div><div>[Note the system is Ubuntu 10.04 beta, but I don't think that's the cause of the prob]</div>
<div><div><div><div><br></div><div>Full output is below.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your help, much appreciated,</div></div></div><div><br></div><div>Mike</div></div><div><div><br></div><div><div>(imeveryone)root@mike-desktop:~# easy_install pip</div>
<div>/root/.virtualenvs/imeveryone/bin/easy_install:5: UserWarning: Module pkg_resources was already imported from /root/.virtualenvs/imeveryone/lib/python2.6/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c9-py2.6.egg/pkg_resources.py, but /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages is being added to sys.path</div>
<div> from pkg_resources import load_entry_point</div><div>/root/.virtualenvs/imeveryone/bin/easy_install:5: UserWarning: Module site was already imported from /root/.virtualenvs/imeveryone/lib/python2.6/site.pyc, but /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages is being added to sys.path</div>
<div> from pkg_resources import load_entry_point</div><div>Searching for pip</div><div>Reading <a href="http://pypi.python.org/simple/pip/" target="_blank">http://pypi.python.org/simple/pip/</a></div><div>Reading <a href="http://pip.openplans.org" target="_blank">http://pip.openplans.org</a></div>
<div>Best match: pip 0.6.3</div><div>Downloading <a href="http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/p/pip/pip-0.6.3.tar.gz#md5=0602fa9179cfaa98e41565d4a581d98c" target="_blank">http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/p/pip/pip-0.6.3.tar.gz#md5=0602fa9179cfaa98e41565d4a581d98c</a></div>
<div>Processing pip-0.6.3.tar.gz</div><div>Running pip-0.6.3/setup.py -q bdist_egg --dist-dir /tmp/easy_install-bgHiZO/pip-0.6.3/egg-dist-tmp-9OS3pv</div><div>Traceback (most recent call last):</div><div> File "/root/.virtualenvs/imeveryone/bin/easy_install", line 8, in <module></div>
<div> load_entry_point('setuptools==0.6c9', 'console_scripts', 'easy_install')()</div><div> File "/root/.virtualenvs/imeveryone/lib/python2.6/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c9-py2.6.egg/setuptools/command/easy_install.py", line 1671, in main</div>
<div> </div><div> File "/root/.virtualenvs/imeveryone/lib/python2.6/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c9-py2.6.egg/setuptools/command/easy_install.py", line 1659, in with_ei_usage</div><div> </div><div> File "/root/.virtualenvs/imeveryone/lib/python2.6/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c9-py2.6.egg/setuptools/command/easy_install.py", line 1675, in <lambda></div>
<div> </div><div> File "/usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/core.py", line 152, in setup</div><div> dist.run_commands()</div><div> File "/usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/dist.py", line 975, in run_commands</div>
<div> self.run_command(cmd)</div><div> File "/usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/dist.py", line 995, in run_command</div><div> cmd_obj.run()</div><div> File "/root/.virtualenvs/imeveryone/lib/python2.6/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c9-py2.6.egg/setuptools/command/easy_install.py", line 211, in run</div>
<div> </div><div> File "/root/.virtualenvs/imeveryone/lib/python2.6/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c9-py2.6.egg/setuptools/command/easy_install.py", line 446, in easy_install</div><div> </div><div> File "/root/.virtualenvs/imeveryone/lib/python2.6/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c9-py2.6.egg/setuptools/command/easy_install.py", line 476, in install_item</div>
<div> </div><div> File "/root/.virtualenvs/imeveryone/lib/python2.6/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c9-py2.6.egg/setuptools/command/easy_install.py", line 655, in install_eggs</div><div> </div><div> File "/root/.virtualenvs/imeveryone/lib/python2.6/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c9-py2.6.egg/setuptools/command/easy_install.py", line 930, in build_and_install</div>
<div> </div><div> File "/root/.virtualenvs/imeveryone/lib/python2.6/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c9-py2.6.egg/setuptools/command/easy_install.py", line 919, in run_setup</div><div> </div><div> File "/root/.virtualenvs/imeveryone/lib/python2.6/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c9-py2.6.egg/setuptools/sandbox.py", line 27, in run_setup</div>
<div> File "/root/.virtualenvs/imeveryone/lib/python2.6/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c9-py2.6.egg/setuptools/sandbox.py", line 63, in run</div><div> File "/root/.virtualenvs/imeveryone/lib/python2.6/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c9-py2.6.egg/setuptools/sandbox.py", line 29, in <lambda></div>
<div> File "setup.py", line 48, in <module></div><div> File "/usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/core.py", line 113, in setup</div><div> _setup_distribution = dist = klass(attrs)</div><div> File "/root/.virtualenvs/imeveryone/lib/python2.6/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c9-py2.6.egg/setuptools/dist.py", line 223, in __init__</div>
<div> File "/usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/dist.py", line 270, in __init__</div><div> self.finalize_options()</div><div> File "/root/.virtualenvs/imeveryone/lib/python2.6/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c9-py2.6.egg/setuptools/dist.py", line 256, in finalize_options</div>
<div> File "/root/.virtualenvs/imeveryone/lib/python2.6/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c9-py2.6.egg/pkg_resources.py", line 1918, in load</div><div> while parts and parts[-1]=='00000000':</div><div>ImportError: <module 'setuptools.dist' from '/root/.virtualenvs/imeveryone/lib/python2.6/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c9-py2.6.egg/setuptools/dist.py'> has no 'check_packages' attribute</div>
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