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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks Mark,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>From the web page for the SDK I have. <FONT
color=#000000>"This release of the SDK is intended to replace the Windows SDK
for Vista." </FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>But this only appears to be 0x500 rather than
0x501.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Hence my confusion.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I get further confused when resetting the #define in
win32credmodule.cpp has no effect. What's it there for?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I had to debug setup.py to find the culprit and
downgrade the windows_h_version required.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Now win32cred builds OK, (no idea if it works but we'll
ignore that for now) and my next problem is either missing files or missing
variables depending on which of the three different, post Vista, SDK's I
select.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Along the way I've discovered far more than I ever wished
to know about how setup.py and MSVC search directories and I have settled on
using the MSSDK environment variable to attempt to synchronise them - again I
don't know if it works because there doesn't seem to be a 'verbose' mode for
setup.py.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I appreciate that second guessing how MS names it's SDK's
and where they get (randomly) installed is a mug's game so why attempt
to duplicate and track it in setup.py? Surely trapping any MSVC errors and
reporting them back would suffice?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Even if I achieve a build, I'm not convinced that I'll be
much better off. I find that one of the key benefits of building a project
in the MSVC environment is that I can use 'goto definition' to unravel the
structure of other peoples code. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I'm deliberately lazy when getting to grips with 'new'
stuff; I have enough to keep in my head about my own projects so all I want to
know about the new stuff is 'Is it going to help me or hinder me?' and I want to
find out with the minimum fuss and effort. I have to say that I'm disappointed
with Pywin32 in that respect.so far.Almost everything I have tried to do, right
from finding and downloading the sources has been less than
obvious.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>What would help is:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>1) certainty about exactly which MS SDK(s) are required
including dates and recent URL's.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>2) MSVC solutions, if not for all projects, at least
for the major ones.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>3) An idiots guide to the structure, both physical and
logical.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I'd like this to work, I really would, the alternative for
me is Eclipse!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=288364211-26112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Dave.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2> </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Mark Hammond
[mailto:skippy.hammond@gmail.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Mark
Hammond<BR><B>Sent:</B> 25 November 2008 21:30<BR><B>To:</B> Dave Cross;
python-win32@python.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [python-win32] Win32Cred build
errors<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
can't recall why we say we need that version - have you tried changing it to see
what breaks? Currently the vista SDK needs to be used as some partf of
pywin32 are starting to expose things introduced with that
OS.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
python-win32-bounces+skippy.hammond=gmail.com@python.org
[mailto:python-win32-bounces+skippy.hammond=gmail.com@python.org] <B>On Behalf
Of </B>Dave Cross<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 26 November 2008 2:29
AM<BR><B>To:</B> python-win32@python.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [python-win32]
Win32Cred build errors<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Hi
all/anybody,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Win32credmodule.cpp for
pywin32 2.5.212.1 insists on finding a header with #define _WIN32_WINNT
0x501 in it.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">The WinResrc.h file
that comes with Microsoft Platform SDK for Windows Server 2003 R2 is only 0x500
so the build fails.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">As far as I can see,
though, this version of the SDK contains the latest WinCred.h stuff and should
work OK.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Is this a genuine
dependency or a typo?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">If 501 is required,
which SDK(s) support it?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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