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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">+1 for this comment<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’m learning a lot from the source code, and the way it “just works” from cpython really is mind blowing. Kudos once again.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In case anyone here is interested I gave a lightning talk on python.NET at PyCon in Montreal in April:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="http://pyvideo.org/video/2680/lightning-talks-friday-afternoon">http://pyvideo.org/video/2680/lightning-talks-friday-afternoon</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My talk is around the 37 minute mark of the video.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks to everyone who made this magic possible.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> PythonDotNet [mailto:pythondotnet-bounces+jgill=tokiomillennium.com@python.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Adam Klein<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 04, 2014 6:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> A list for users and developers of Python for .NET<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Python.NET] homebrew pythonnet, versus pip install --pre pythonnet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Agreed – had no problem building in VS. I did have some problems in setup.py, that I pointed out (but only having to do with my registry keys not aligning with
what the script expected).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’m learning a lot from the source code, and the way it “just works” from cpython really is mind blowing. Kudos once again.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> PythonDotNet [mailto:pythondotnet-bounces+aklein=bmcm.com@python.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Anthoff<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 04, 2014 3:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'A list for users and developers of Python for .NET'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Python.NET] homebrew pythonnet, versus pip install --pre pythonnet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ok, actually we are talking past each other. The problem Adam had apparently has nothing to do with the migration or the pip stuff, it probably is just caused
by a bug introduced in a recent commit, the code Adam identified. We should fix that once we have figured out all the details.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As far as I can tell building from VS still works, none of the changes made should cause a problem for that. If they did, we should fix them, but so far I am
not aware of anything that broke building from VS.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I also want to stress that what we have on github right now is not a released version. We are slowly working towards a release. If you find bugs or regressions
in the prerelease version, please help us to fix them. The best way to make sure things work in your environment is to test and help out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bradley Friedman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 4, 2014 11:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pythondotnet@python.org">pythondotnet@python.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Python.NET] homebrew pythonnet, versus pip install --pre pythonnet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes. But the problem is: before the migration, those things DID work. And it was the pip/setup.py that needed to be fixed up. It sounds like you’re saying you’ve sacrificed all of it just to get a pip install working for windows. This
is extremely troubling. I have not looked at the git branch yet. But now I need to investigate what exactly is going on.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jun 4, 2014, at 1:46 PM, David Anthoff <<a href="mailto:anthoff@berkeley.edu">anthoff@berkeley.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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to fix all of these things.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">PythonDotNet
[<a href="mailto:pythondotnet-bounces+anthoff=berkeley.edu@python.org">mailto:pythondotnet-bounces+anthoff=berkeley.edu@python.org</a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Brad Friedman<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, June 4, 2014 9:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>A list for users and developers of Python for .NET<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [<a href="http://Python.NET">Python.NET</a>] homebrew pythonnet, versus pip install --pre pythonnet</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Umm. As an asside: seriously? You are only supporting setup.py builds from this branch? That's a problem.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://python.net/"><span style="color:purple">Python.net</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>is
also used to embed python. Therefore, it should build from IDE on all platforms and also from an autotools system. <o:p></o:p></p>
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On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:15 AM, Tony Roberts <<a href="mailto:tony@pyxll.com"><span style="color:purple">tony@pyxll.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">that 2.0.0.beta1 build was built from the source on github here:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://github.com/pythonnet/pythonnet"><span style="color:purple">https://github.com/pythonnet/pythonnet</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tony<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 3:48 AM, Bradley Friedman <<a href="mailto:brad@fie.us" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">brad@fie.us</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Can you provide the contents of the ".Config" file that is built with your particular build solution? There's a pretty good chance that the "FileNotFound" is actually mono trying to link back to Python shared libraries. Though to be honest,
debugging is going to be your best bet here. You might try building in Xamarin or MonoDevelop on the mac, to be able to debug more easily.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-brad<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jun 3, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Tribble, Brett <<a href="mailto:btribble@ea.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">btribble@ea.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It has been a while since I’ve had to deal with this, but make sure that your assembly is in the system path and/or pythonpath if it is not registered in the
GAC.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> PythonDotNet [<a href="mailto:pythondotnet-bounces+btribble=ea.com@python.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">mailto:pythondotnet-bounces+btribble=ea.com@python.org</span></a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Adam Klein<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 03, 2014 4:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:pythondotnet@python.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">pythondotnet@python.org</span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [<a href="http://python.net/"><span style="color:purple">Python.NET</span></a>] homebrew pythonnet, versus pip install --pre pythonnet</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Hi All,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I am experimenting with integrating ipython / numpy / pandas for interactive data analysis with our large existing C# codebase. We are using the Anaconda 2.0 release from
ContinuumIO. With `pip install –pre pythonnet`, everything goes as expected (great!)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">However, when I build from source (in VS2013), point my PYTHONPATH to the clr.pyd and Python.Runtime.dll that results from the build, and run my ipython, I can do `import
clr` and `ref = clr.AddReference(“assemblyname”)`, but I cannot load any modules within this assembly. I get a `ImportError: No module named …` Furthermore, if I try to do ref.ExportedTypes, I get a `FileNotFoundException: Could not load file or assembly …`
where it cannot find an assembly that is referenced by the original assembly. There must be some broken loading going on… Any thoughts why this might have different behavior than what I install via PyPI (<a href="https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pythonnet/2.0.0.dev1" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pythonnet/2.0.0.dev1</span></a>)?
Or, hints on how to debug?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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