[Pythonmac-SIG] MacPython logo redux
George B. Smith
gbs at k9haven.com
Tue Nov 4 22:41:33 EST 2003
First let me say that while I am only learning Python, I do think
Python is a great language and that MacPython is a great piece of
software! Up to this point, I have only been a lurker, just
trying to learn from all the great info on the list. But I feel
compelled to say something about this proposed logo.
And you can just take this as a data point: I can't stand snakes,
they creep me out, and I agree with Kevin that a photo-realistic
depiction of a snake is not my idea of a great logo. In my
experience, a lot of people are creeped out by snakes. I agree
with Kevin that a strategy of *positively* attracting a lot of
people to a product would not involve a photo-realistic snake
strangling the guts out of an object. However, if the snake
was cutened up, like the "Tux" penguin from Linux is a cute
representation of a real penguin, then I think it would be fine
to include a snake. Cuteness is cool, stark realism is not, IMO.
PS: I don't agree with Jack that it is not photo-realistic -
I think the artist did a *way* too good a job of making it
look like a real snake! :-)
On Tuesday, November 4, 2003, at 02:16 PM, Jack Jansen wrote:
> Another strong point in favor of this logo is that it's the first
> non-Monty-Python one that I would seriously consider:-)
> My reasoning is somewhat like this:
> - Having a snake would strengthen the connection between MacPython and
> the other Pythons.
> - Having a beautiful photo-realistic snake would strengthen the
> connection between MacPython and the Macintosh.
> This image also has two important strong points: it's width and height
> are about the same (making it easy to incorporate in other icons) and
> moreover it wraps something (giving us yet another class of icons to
> One technical issue is copyright: would the artist be willing to hand
> over copyright to the PSF? In return I'd be more than willing to add a
> page "the MacPython logo" to the website, with proper attribution of
> the logo and a link to his website, etc.
> As to people afraid of snakes: unless a majority (or a sizeable
> minority) of the people here agree that this is a problem I think we
> shouldn't let this stop us (Sorry Kevin!!!). And: the snake isn't all
> *that* realistic... Hmm, a compromise I'd be open to is if the artist
> added Guido's glasses to the snake, would that be doable?
> As to that-type-of-christians taking offense (with the emphasis on
> "that-type-of": 99% of the christians wouldn't, I'm pretty sure): no
> problem, they're not using macs. See
> <http://objective.jesussave.us/propaganda.html> for details. WARNING:
> don't follow that URL unless you have a fair amount of spare time
> available. It's addictive, and there's lots of good stuff on that site
> and others near it.
> Jack Jansen, <Jack.Jansen at cwi.nl>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack
> If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma
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