[Pythonmac-SIG] Python IDE 2.3.2 problems

[Bob Ippolito]

On Nov 19, 2004, at 1:13 AM, Jack Jansen wrote:

>
> On 18-nov-04, at 22:28, Just van Rossum wrote:
>>>> 2. When I need to run a program that should use the "Tkinter"
>>>> module (I'm running Tickle 8.4.4) I can only briefly see the
>>>> widgets I've created -- then the IDE, and my application as well,
>>>> vanish, quit with no alert, no warning, no nothing... However, when
>>>> I use the Python Launcher (v2.3 by Jack Jansen) to launch that very
>>>> same program, everything works okay. What's wrong with my
>>>> installation?
>>>
>>> This is an intrinsic shortcoming of the IDE.
>>
>> Actually, I would think that the "Run with commandline Python" option
>> was designed to work around that shortcoming...
>
> Indeed (was it you or me who put it in?:-), but you lose debugging and
> introspection, so you're really only able to use the editor portion of 
> the IDE.
>
> If I understand things correctly Idle has solved this issue, and allows
> you to run your program in a different process than the IDE but still
> allowing you to debug. At some point we should probably steal this 
> code.

This code is quite frightening, seems to be quite dependent on idle, 
and uses threads all over the place...  I've considered rewriting it in 
a somewhat more sane manner for an out of process version of 
PyInterpreter (with the idea that it would also be used for a 
debugger), but have not had the time or need yet.

-bob