[Pythonmac-SIG] Trouble installing Tkinter with 2.3.5/10.2
nad at acm.org
Mon Jun 2 01:21:57 CEST 2008
In article <C46848F9.BB5A%mailing-lists-1001 at anthonykozar.net>,
Anthony Kozar <mailing-lists-1001 at anthonykozar.net> wrote:
> Maybe there are not many 10.2 users left. But I still frequently hear from
> people who are "just now" giving up their OS 9 machines for something newer.
But that's not really an Apples to Apples comparison, so to speak. I
would be rather surprised to find that there aren't more OS 9 users left
today than 10.2 users since, in general, once you've made the leap to OS
X, it's far easier to move from 10.m to 10.m+n than it is from OS 9 (or
earlier) to any 10.n. Likewise, I suspect most people who've gone
through both processes would say that the leap from OS9 to 10.n is
bigger conceptually than from W95 to XP or Vista. But that's just my
not particularly well-informed speculation.
Another factor is that the early releases of OS X were immature - not
surprisingly. The improvements from release to release have no doubt
been a motivator to many users to keep current.
All that is somewhat independent of issues of supported hardware, such
as you cited with an early G3. There are, of course, various reasons
why Apple might be seen as more aggressive than Microsoft about retiring
older hardware, the most obvious being that, unlike Microsoft, Apple's
primary business is selling hardware, not software.
> It would be interesting to see some real numbers for how many 10.2 users
> there are.
I've nothing equivalent to the Omni data to draw on but, in my small
sample of users, I don't know of anyone still using 10.2. Another
interesting set of data points might be to look at the documented
current supported os versions for a representative set of "popular"
third-party OSX applications. I'd be surprised if 10.2 shows up much
What is pretty indisputable, I think, is that Apple has some pretty
powerful carrots and sticks out there; users of new hardware aren't
going to be running anything but the latest releases so the number of
systems running older OS X versions will likely always tend to drop off
pretty rapidly after a few years.
nad at acm.org
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