<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">I have an IDLE.app on my 10.4 machine. Since I haven't really used it, I can't remember if it came with Tiger, or showed up when I installed Python 2.4 -- does everyone with OS 10.4 have it? Is it just a shell to call idlelib? If so, is there any way to tell whether it calls with python or with pythonw?<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Charles</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><DIV><DIV><DIV>On Feb 9, 2006, at 1:38 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Lucida Grande" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Lucida Grande">Since IDLE runs its shells and scripts in subprocesses, wx (or any other GUI framework) is possible to use if and only if IDLE was started via "pythonw".<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>If IDLE is started with just "python" then wx will not operate.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>I believe the Tk that ships with OS X 10.4 does have the CPS hack that allows it to work even if started with python, but that doesn't help wx at all.</FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>