<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On Feb 13, 2006, at 4:52 PM, Daniel Lord wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR><DIV><DIV>On Feb 13, 2006, at 3:03 PM, <A href="mailto:pythonmac-sig-request@python.org">pythonmac-sig-request@python.org</A> wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">1. Monty Python related (to avoid the annoying offensive imagery <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">arguments)</FONT></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV>Monty Python is copyrighted work. I would advise keeping a careful distance from anything commercially recognizable unless you put aside a significant settlement fund and lawyers fees for the settlement negotiation. But then you could gamble that Michael Palin et al are fans of open source software, want to contribute to the cause, and will let you use it gratis. Frankly, the language is named after a snake, a pretty noble beast actually, and I am not sure how Nature offends in this case. I think FORTRAN, PERL, C, Java, and C# are banal and unimaginitive in fact. Not that i think animals are good language names, but then what is? But the essence of naming is representation and memorability. I think Python is better than many in those respects. I suggest the collective community has 'bigger fish to fry' but since your are volunteers that is a suggestion.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV><DIV>Generic Monty Python references, such as the current 16-ton weight, don't tread anywhere near any copyrights or trademarks that I'm aware of. Python is not named after the snake, that's just coincidence.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Snakes, especially in combination with apples, can cause irrational reactions (plenty of that in the archives last time this topic came up). However, that seems to be a very small, but vocal, minority. It may be best if we just choose to ignore their comments and go ahead with the obvious choice. The users we don't acquire due to the icon is probably very small in contrast with the users we'd gain given a good brand to recognize.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>-bob</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV></BODY></HTML>