<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On 21-Apr-06, at 6:00 AM, donovan wrote:</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 10px; ">I don't think stealing the Apple Installer icon is a good idea for</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 10px; ">.egg though - double-clicking it doesn't install anything. Perhaps</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 10px; ">something closer to a StuffIt archive icon (a closed box) or a Python</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 10px; ">logo behind Apple's zipper icon with "EGG" underneath. Or an egg?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 10px; ">Anyone remember Software Ventures' logo? :)</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR style=""></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">How about just the lego brick used for components with the python logo on the side. Look in /System/Library/Components.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I'm wary of using the brick logo, because as far as I can see Apple uses them extensively for OS components. I don't want to dilute their visual meaning by co-opting the icon for something different. I agree that the box isn't great either though since eggs aren't executable.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On 21-Apr-06, at 6:00 AM, donovan preston wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">On Apr 20, 2006, at 8:38 PM, Nicholas Riley wrote:</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 11:11:19PM -0400, Brendan Simons wrote:</FONT></P> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 20.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">I've attached a few more mockups using Jacob's excellent aquified</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 20.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">logo.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Have a look here:</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 20.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><A href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/28928816@N00/132185325/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/28928816@N00/132185325/</A></FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Awesome. I love them. Ship it. :-)</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">I don't think stealing the Apple Installer icon is a good idea for</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">.egg though - double-clicking it doesn't install anything.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Perhaps</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">something closer to a StuffIt archive icon (a closed box) or a Python</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">logo behind Apple's zipper icon with "EGG" underneath.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Or an egg?</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Anyone remember Software Ventures' logo? :)</FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">How about just the lego brick used for components with the python logo on the side. Look in /System/Library/Components.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">The PYTHON text appears to be in the wrong font.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>By analogy with</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">AppleScript, perhaps the text shouldn't be there at all (although how</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">many people will recognize the Python logo anyway?)</FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Probably the python logo is enough, since the file ends in .py.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">dp</FONT></P> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>OK, here I have to disagree again. I use icon view all the time, and I really appreciate having filetypes written on file icons. It's one of the reasons I switched to the mac. It lets me know what type of is what without having to decode some unfamiliar icon, or look to the file extension (which is still optional on the mac, though I admit, required for python). I'll look into the font, but I thought it was supposed to be Lucida Grande. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Does anyone have a wiki where I could throw up a straw poll?</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On 21-Apr-06, at 6:00 AM, jacob rus wrote:</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Brendan Simons wrote:</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 10px; ">I've attached a few more mockups using Jacob's excellent aquified logo. Have a look here:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 10px; "><A href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/28928816@N00/132185325/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/28928816@N00/132185325/</A></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR style=""></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Alright, I tried the monochrome idea for bytecode files, and also put up my own attempt at an embossed logo on a rocket:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR style=""></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/docs-and-rocket.png">http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/docs-and-rocket.png</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR style=""></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">All of these are also included in the psd file (which keeps getting bigger... I should maybe remove some unused layers):</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR style=""></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/python-icons.psd">http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/python-icons.psd</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR style=""></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">-Jacob</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV><DIV>These are great Jacob. I like the disk image in particular. There's a couple of changes I'd like to try this evening: </DIV><DIV>- I will incorporate your new icon,</DIV><DIV>- I want to see what real python bytecode looks like on the pyc/pyo icon. </DIV><DIV>- The rocket logo looks better to me centered over the widest bit</DIV><DIV>- The mechanical pencil needs a bit of perspective so that it appears to lay flat on the sheet. If you're looking for more pencil images, here's two good ones:</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><A href="http://www.keyboardmag.com/Pictures/web/y/h/c/Pentel_Pencil.jpg">http://www.keyboardmag.com/Pictures/web/y/h/c/Pentel_Pencil.jpg</A></DIV><DIV><A href="http://www.misterart.com/grouppix/280x210/2000/g2417.jpg">http://www.misterart.com/grouppix/280x210/2000/g2417.jpg</A></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I'll check back with something tonight,</DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>Brendan</DIV></DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>