On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Jon Christopher <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jon.christopher@gmail.com">jon.christopher@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Thanks, I'll try the fix when I get home. However, I should reiterate<br>
that I'm not seeing a timeout (which would cause an exception,<br>
right?). It's just that I (eventually) issue an applescript command<br>
which seems to go nowhere.<br>
<br>
As I understand the id-rollover bug:<br>
<br>
1) it will cause events which want a reply to eventually timeout.<br>
2) which would trigger a python exception<br>
<br>
I'm not sure how that would be at play here since:<br>
<br>
1) the command I'm sending doesn't (apparently) need a reply<br>
2) I'm not getting exceptions.<br>
<br>
Did I missunderstand something?<br></blockquote><div><br>i don't think you're misunderstanding anything, but the two sets of circumstances are not mutually exclusive. i don't know what the system you're dealing with is doing with the command you're sending, in particular (1) whether it's internally issuing a command that does need a reply, in the course of its handling - that seems likely - and (2) whether it's "protecting" against runtime disruption by swallowing any exceptions encountered. perhaps you know all the systems involved well enough to be sure this isn't happening. though it's often bad practice to swallow errors without any signs, (2) is not unusual or unwarranted in executive style programs, though they should issue some kind of warning, like in a log, that can be missed, and too often nothing is issued at all.<br>
<br>that doesn't mean the problem is happening and being covered up, just that it might be, and a little bit of "experimental computer science" is probably worth the effort.<br>-- <br>ken<br><a href="http://myriadicity.net">http://myriadicity.net</a><br>
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<div><div></div><div class="h5">On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:10 AM, ken manheimer <<a href="mailto:ken.manheimer@gmail.com">ken.manheimer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Brad Howes <<a href="mailto:howes@ll.mit.edu">howes@ll.mit.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On Dec 16, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Jon Christopher wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> > Thanks for the reply, Brad.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I'm not familiar with the issue you describe. Can you provide a<br>
>> > pointer to some related info? How would I test to see if my script is<br>
>> > affected?<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://db.tidbits.com/article/10643" target="_blank">http://db.tidbits.com/article/10643</a><br>
><br>
> and see these threads for the description of the problem in python appscript<br>
> and the fix:<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://old.nabble.com/-ann--appscript-0.20.2-tt26413893.html" target="_blank">http://old.nabble.com/-ann--appscript-0.20.2-tt26413893.html</a><br>
> and<br>
> <a href="http://old.nabble.com/-ann--py-appscript-0.21.0-tt26634638.html" target="_blank">http://old.nabble.com/-ann--py-appscript-0.21.0-tt26634638.html</a><br>
><br>
> note that i experienced the problem in leopard as well as snow leopard. it<br>
> does seem to be well explained by the return id problem, even though the<br>
> above article attributes it to only snow leopard. plus, has' fix seems to<br>
> have completely resolved the problem that i was, until the fix, seeing<br>
> consistently. has the update failed to settle the problem you're seeing?<br>
> --<br>
> ken<br>
> <a href="http://myriadicity.net" target="_blank">http://myriadicity.net</a><br>
><br>
><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Brad Howes<br>
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