From yaqoobinnet at gmail.com  Thu Jun  8 16:01:26 2006
From: yaqoobinnet at gmail.com (yaqoob ansari)
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:31:26 +0530
Subject: [Soc2006] regarding project
Message-ID: <ae1895b00606080701i2caeb008w9f32da16b6b4ff9c@mail.gmail.com>

dear sir,  i wanna do a project in python.....please help me out wher to
start from
waiting for ur reply
thankin u
yaqoob
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From brett at python.org  Thu Jun  8 22:12:33 2006
From: brett at python.org (Brett Cannon)
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 13:12:33 -0700
Subject: [Soc2006] regarding project
In-Reply-To: <ae1895b00606080701i2caeb008w9f32da16b6b4ff9c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ae1895b00606080701i2caeb008w9f32da16b6b4ff9c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bbaeab100606081312m78f7b6c9q24d5ae69f960127b@mail.gmail.com>

This is the wrong place for this kind of question.  The Usenet group
comp.lang.python is a better place for this kind of question.

-Brett

On 6/8/06, yaqoob ansari <yaqoobinnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> dear sir,  i wanna do a project in python.....please help me out wher to
> start from
> waiting for ur reply
> thankin u
> yaqoob
>
> _______________________________________________
> Soc2006 mailing list
> Soc2006 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/soc2006
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From l.oluyede at gmail.com  Wed Jun 14 01:05:27 2006
From: l.oluyede at gmail.com (Lawrence Oluyede)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 01:05:27 +0200
Subject: [Soc2006] Switching to ctypes SVN
Message-ID: <9eebf5740606131605v3afc534bk911cced418acce22@mail.gmail.com>

Is there any problem if I switch the ctypes version I use to the
current SVN version in the Python trunk tree?

There's some interesting new features that can be useful to my work
and some bugfixes that will be surely useful.

-- 
Lawrence
http://www.oluyede.org/blog

From brett at python.org  Wed Jun 14 02:27:34 2006
From: brett at python.org (Brett Cannon)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:27:34 -0700
Subject: [Soc2006] Switching to ctypes SVN
In-Reply-To: <9eebf5740606131605v3afc534bk911cced418acce22@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9eebf5740606131605v3afc534bk911cced418acce22@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bbaeab100606131727l6f0875ecl8d6ec18dbddb4d81@mail.gmail.com>

I personally see no reason why not.  If your mentor approves the change of
target it should be fine.

-Brett

On 6/13/06, Lawrence Oluyede <l.oluyede at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Is there any problem if I switch the ctypes version I use to the
> current SVN version in the Python trunk tree?
>
> There's some interesting new features that can be useful to my work
> and some bugfixes that will be surely useful.
>
> --
> Lawrence
> http://www.oluyede.org/blog
> _______________________________________________
> Soc2006 mailing list
> Soc2006 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/soc2006
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From sdeibel at wingware.com  Wed Jun 14 01:58:28 2006
From: sdeibel at wingware.com (sdeibel)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 19:58:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Soc2006] Wing IDE licenses for Python SoCers
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606131952500.14462@localhost.localdomain>

Hi,

Wingware would like to offer free permanent licenses for Wing IDE 
Professional to students that have been awarded Summer of Code
grants for Python.

Are the students on this list?  If so, you can contact me to 
claim a license.  More info and free trials can be obtained
from wingware.com.

If not, what is a good way to announce this?

Sorry, we're a bit late getting this started this year, but I 
hope it'll still be useful for some of the students.

Thanks,

Stephan Deibel

--
Wingware
Wing IDE for Python
Advancing Software Development

www.wingware.com

From l.oluyede at gmail.com  Wed Jun 14 07:57:51 2006
From: l.oluyede at gmail.com (Lawrence Oluyede)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 07:57:51 +0200
Subject: [Soc2006] Wing IDE licenses for Python SoCers
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606131952500.14462@localhost.localdomain>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606131952500.14462@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <9eebf5740606132257r53562443i8c9fd0918cd6d35f@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/14/06, sdeibel <sdeibel at wingware.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Wingware would like to offer free permanent licenses for Wing IDE
> Professional to students that have been awarded Summer of Code
> grants for Python.

That's a great news. Thank you for the kind offer.

> Are the students on this list?  If so, you can contact me to
> claim a license.  More info and free trials can be obtained
> from wingware.com.

I'm the student entitled to port some CPython modules to Python +
ctypes so I'll be glad to use WingIDE in my Linux time :-)

Can you send me details in private?

-- 
Lawrence
http://www.oluyede.org/blog

From karol.langner at kn.pl  Wed Jun 14 11:04:43 2006
From: karol.langner at kn.pl (Karol Langner)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:04:43 +0200
Subject: [Soc2006] Wing IDE licenses for Python SoCers
In-Reply-To: <9eebf5740606132257r53562443i8c9fd0918cd6d35f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606131952500.14462@localhost.localdomain>
	<9eebf5740606132257r53562443i8c9fd0918cd6d35f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200606141104.43464.karol.langner@kn.pl>

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 07:57, Lawrence Oluyede wrote:
> On 6/14/06, sdeibel <sdeibel at wingware.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Wingware would like to offer free permanent licenses for Wing IDE
> > Professional to students that have been awarded Summer of Code
> > grants for Python.
You might want to write Chris DiBona (cdibona at google.com) and ask him to send 
the message out to:
Summer-Accepted-2006 at googlegroups.com
where all the SoC 2006 participants are sign up. There may also be student 
coding in Python but not mentored by PSF.

Cheers,
Karol

-- 
written by Karol Langner
?ro cze 14 11:01:52 CEST 2006

From theller at python.net  Wed Jun 14 12:01:40 2006
From: theller at python.net (Thomas Heller)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:01:40 +0200
Subject: [Soc2006] Switching to ctypes SVN
In-Reply-To: <9eebf5740606131605v3afc534bk911cced418acce22@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9eebf5740606131605v3afc534bk911cced418acce22@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <448FDE84.9010801@python.net>

Lawrence Oluyede wrote:
> Is there any problem if I switch the ctypes version I use to the
> current SVN version in the Python trunk tree?
> 
> There's some interesting new features that can be useful to my work
> and some bugfixes that will be surely useful.
> 

I intent to do a new ctypes release shortly after the Python 2.5 beta1
release anyway.

Thomas


From chairos at gmail.com  Wed Jun 14 12:25:03 2006
From: chairos at gmail.com (Jon Rosebaugh)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 05:25:03 -0500
Subject: [Soc2006] Wing IDE licenses for Python SoCers
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606131952500.14462@localhost.localdomain>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606131952500.14462@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <ad60861a0606140325p63c0106eke1b4acfd7080ca8b@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/13/06, sdeibel <sdeibel at wingware.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Wingware would like to offer free permanent licenses for Wing IDE
> Professional to students that have been awarded Summer of Code
> grants for Python.

That's very kind of you, but I've already been given free permanent
licenses of Eric, SPE, SciTE, and EMACS. What's more, I obtained those
licenses before I was ever any PR benefit to those projects.

http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/mcvoy.html

From gvwilson at cs.utoronto.ca  Wed Jun 14 20:53:46 2006
From: gvwilson at cs.utoronto.ca (Greg Wilson)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:53:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Soc2006] Wing IDE licenses for Python SoCers
In-Reply-To: <ad60861a0606140325p63c0106eke1b4acfd7080ca8b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606131952500.14462@localhost.localdomain>
	<ad60861a0606140325p63c0106eke1b4acfd7080ca8b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0606141451460.3371@qew.cs>

> > On 6/13/06, sdeibel <sdeibel at wingware.com> wrote:
> > Wingware would like to offer free permanent licenses for Wing IDE
> > Professional to students that have been awarded Summer of Code
> > grants for Python.

> On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Jon Rosebaugh wrote:
> That's very kind of you, but I've already been given free permanent
> licenses of Eric, SPE, SciTE, and EMACS. What's more, I obtained those
> licenses before I was ever any PR benefit to those projects.

Greg Wilson writes:
I don't think the sarcasm was either necessary or appropriate.

Thanks,
Greg


From kap4020 at rit.edu  Wed Jun 14 21:30:04 2006
From: kap4020 at rit.edu (Karol Pietrzak)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:30:04 -0400
Subject: [Soc2006] Wing IDE licenses for Python SoCers
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0606141451460.3371@qew.cs>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606131952500.14462@localhost.localdomain>
	<ad60861a0606140325p63c0106eke1b4acfd7080ca8b@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.GSO.4.58.0606141451460.3371@qew.cs>
Message-ID: <200606141530.07432.kap4020@rit.edu>

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 14:53, Greg Wilson wrote:
> > On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Jon Rosebaugh wrote:
> > That's very kind of you, but I've already been given free permanent
> > licenses of Eric, SPE, SciTE, and EMACS. What's more, I obtained those
> > licenses before I was ever any PR benefit to those projects.
>
> Greg Wilson writes:
> I don't think the sarcasm was either necessary or appropriate.

I completely concur with Greg Wilson.  Jon Rosebaugh's comment was immature 
and unprofessional.

I want to thank Wingware for their generosity and support of the students 
currently working on their Google Summer of Code projects.

-- 
Karl Pietrzak
kap4020 at rit.edu
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From brett at python.org  Wed Jun 14 23:01:34 2006
From: brett at python.org (Brett Cannon)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:01:34 -0700
Subject: [Soc2006] Please update wiki with links to your repositories
Message-ID: <bbaeab100606141401t5a39f1ffobc59ddbe80368eee@mail.gmail.com>

As part of SoC, everyone is supposed to keep their work in a publicly
accessible repository somewhere.  So that we can have those links
centralized in a single place and make it easy for people to have a look at
what you are up to, we are asking everyone to put it in the python.org wiki.

So, by this Monday (June 19, exclusive), please have the 'XXX' in the wiki
page (http://wiki.python.org/moin/SummerOfCode) for your project replaced
with a link to the public repository you are keeping your work in.  Thanks.

-Brett
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From chairos at gmail.com  Wed Jun 14 23:02:11 2006
From: chairos at gmail.com (Jon Rosebaugh)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:02:11 -0500
Subject: [Soc2006] Wing IDE licenses for Python SoCers
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0606141451460.3371@qew.cs>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606131952500.14462@localhost.localdomain>
	<ad60861a0606140325p63c0106eke1b4acfd7080ca8b@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.GSO.4.58.0606141451460.3371@qew.cs>
Message-ID: <ad60861a0606141402u1b88688du8f02fc1007a28a9@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/14/06, Greg Wilson <gvwilson at cs.utoronto.ca> wrote:
> I don't think the sarcasm was either necessary or appropriate.

I apologize for the tone of my message, and for the assumptions I made
about Wingware's motives. My beliefs about free software, however, I
stand behind.

Jon Rosebaugh

From brett at python.org  Wed Jun 14 23:12:37 2006
From: brett at python.org (Brett Cannon)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:12:37 -0700
Subject: [Soc2006] Wing IDE licenses for Python SoCers
In-Reply-To: <ad60861a0606141402u1b88688du8f02fc1007a28a9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606131952500.14462@localhost.localdomain>
	<ad60861a0606140325p63c0106eke1b4acfd7080ca8b@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.GSO.4.58.0606141451460.3371@qew.cs>
	<ad60861a0606141402u1b88688du8f02fc1007a28a9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bbaeab100606141412q5b77b621t5864f97e2a82933b@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/14/06, Jon Rosebaugh <chairos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 6/14/06, Greg Wilson <gvwilson at cs.utoronto.ca> wrote:
> > I don't think the sarcasm was either necessary or appropriate.
>
> I apologize for the tone of my message, and for the assumptions I made
> about Wingware's motives. My beliefs about free software, however, I
> stand behind.



Thanks for the apology.  I bet everyone involved here supports free
software, it just varies to what degree in terms of using commercial
software.

Anyway, I am gong to go ahead and kill this thread before this turns into a
flame war for some reason.  If you would like to take Wingware up on its
offer, go for it.  Otherwise, just ignore the email.

-Brett
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From sdeibel at wingware.com  Wed Jun 14 21:34:30 2006
From: sdeibel at wingware.com (sdeibel)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:34:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Soc2006] Wing IDE licenses for Python SoCers
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0606141451460.3371@qew.cs>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606131952500.14462@localhost.localdomain>
	<ad60861a0606140325p63c0106eke1b4acfd7080ca8b@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.GSO.4.58.0606141451460.3371@qew.cs>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606141526520.18220@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Greg Wilson wrote:
> > > On 6/13/06, sdeibel <sdeibel at wingware.com> wrote:
> > > Wingware would like to offer free permanent licenses for Wing IDE
> > > Professional to students that have been awarded Summer of Code
> > > grants for Python.
> 
> > On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Jon Rosebaugh wrote:
> > That's very kind of you, but I've already been given free permanent
> > licenses of Eric, SPE, SciTE, and EMACS. What's more, I obtained those
> > licenses before I was ever any PR benefit to those projects.
> 
> Greg Wilson writes:
> I don't think the sarcasm was either necessary or appropriate.

Not a big deal, but thanks. :-)

I always try to encourage people to look a bit deeper at open 
licensing than just the FSF's take.  That's certainly appropriate 
here given that Python is not GPL and many in the community are 
strongly against the GPL's all-or-nothing approach.

Also, so much open source, including the products of SoC, is 
funded by closed source companies that it's valuable, perhaps 
even interesting, to look a bit more carefully at the subtle 
relationships between open and closed source "in the wild".

That said, my goal in offering Wing licenses is not promotion 
(I try to do it as quietly as possible) but to help people get 
work done.

- Stephan


From arigo at tunes.org  Sat Jun 17 12:20:51 2006
From: arigo at tunes.org (Armin Rigo)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:20:51 +0200
Subject: [Soc2006] Switching to ctypes SVN
In-Reply-To: <9eebf5740606131605v3afc534bk911cced418acce22@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9eebf5740606131605v3afc534bk911cced418acce22@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060617102051.GB17939@code0.codespeak.net>

Hi Lawrence,

On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 01:05:27AM +0200, Lawrence Oluyede wrote:
> Is there any problem if I switch the ctypes version I use to the
> current SVN version in the Python trunk tree?
> 
> There's some interesting new features that can be useful to my work
> and some bugfixes that will be surely useful.

Of course, you are welcome to use the version in the Python trunk tree.
I guess that's the target ctypes version that we should support.


A bientot,

Armin

From karol.langner at kn.pl  Sun Jun 25 19:38:40 2006
From: karol.langner at kn.pl (Karol Langner)
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:38:40 +0200
Subject: [Soc2006] basearray
Message-ID: <200606251938.40507.karol.langner@kn.pl>

Dear all,

 Some of you might be aware that a project has been granted to me for this 
year's Google's Summer of Code, which aims at preparing a base 
multidimensional array type for Python. While I had a late start at it, I 
would like to go through with the project.

 The focus is on preparing a minimal type, that basically only defines how 
memory is alllocated for the array, and which can be used by other, more 
sophisticated types. Later during the project, the type may be enhanced, 
depending on how using it in practice (also part of the project) works out.

 Wiki page about the project: http://scipy.org/BaseArray
 SVN repository: http://svn.scipy.org/svn/PEP/

 In order to make this a potential success, I definately need feedback from 
all you out there interested in pushing such a base type towards Python core. 
So any comments and opinions are welcome! I will keep you informed on my 
progress and ask about things that may need concensus (although I'm not sure 
which lists will be the most interested in this). Please note that I am still 
in the phase of completing the minimal type, so the svn repository does not 
contain a working example, yet.

Regards,
Karol Langner

-- 
written by Karol Langner
nie cze 25 19:18:45 CEST 2006