[Soc2006] final evaluations needed; better tracking

Karol Langner karol.langner at kn.pl
Wed Oct 4 08:53:28 CEST 2006


On Wednesday 04 of October 2006 07:35, Neal Norwitz wrote:
> I'm replying to this msg since it was last in queue.  I'll try to
> address other things that have been said (from what I remember or just
> read).
As a failed SoC student, let me give some input :)
I can say for sure that I didn't finish the project due to my own fault. I 
can't say I was discouraged, but at some point I did find the project goals 
quite overwhelming for the designated deadline and the feeling was not eased 
by anyone or anything. In other words, things turned out harder than I 
imagined.

> On 9/29/06, Jonathan LaCour <jonathan-lists at cleverdevil.org> wrote:
> > emf wrote:
> >
> > In my years out in the "real world" I certainly don't find myself
> > being pestered by my boss several times a day.  Rather, we talk about
> > project status on a fairly routine basis a few times a week, and if
> > I need any assistance or am having any issues, I contact him.  I can't
> > think of a job that I have had where my boss has had the time, or the
> > desire, to hold my hand through an entire project.  In fact, the best
> > bosses I have had have left me alone as much as possible!
I totally agree, you can't expect a boss, more so a mentor, to look over the 
student's every move.

> This worked a bit better at the beginning because I could ask Brett to
> follow up and address issues and handle some on my own.  Towards the
> middle of the program Brett was on his way out and neither one of us
> did much more.  I hoped that no news was good news, knowing that
> wouldn't quite be the case.
>
> I believe Jim mentioned that he views this more as education than
> getting something done.  I don't know if he got that from me or Google
> or wherever, but strongly believe this as well.  I did not expect
> every student to complete.  I expected some students would drop out,
> some students would not complete because their project was too
> ambitious, etc.
That was not really clear from the start, at least for me. It is true though, 
since I learned alot, and did not get much done :) although I do hope to get 
back to the project in the near future and continue to work on it.

Karol

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written by Karol Langner
Wed Oct  4 08:39:44 CEST 2006


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