[Spambayes] Odd behavior with messages

[douglas cohn]

Thanks

No it is not Exchange
I have rules in Outlook but it is not behaving properly yet I will try
again.

Since there is no to: address I cannot sort on that.  I have tried using the
header parsing for rules as well to no avail.  Now that I know SpamBayes
waits for Outlook rules I will read the link you sent and try again, placing
this rule higher in my list. Since I did not know Spambayes actually gave
Outlook rules priority I probably gave up after it failed once.

I have about 40 rules already.  I get a lot of mail and I sort it to make
life a bit simpler.

Thanks again

Doug 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 3:37 PM
To: douglas cohn; spambayes at python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Odd behavior with messages

Forgot to mention that you can do whitelisting using Outlook rules.
SpamBayes waits a respectful period before processing incoming messages to
allow Outlook time to execute such rules.  Explore the Tools > Rules and
Alerts... menu item.  I think there may be some useful messages from the
last couple of months in the mailing list archives.  There's a FAQ on the
SpamBayes site that discusses whitelisting and blacklisting
(http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#why-don-t-you-add-whitelistin
g-blacklisting-to-spambayes).

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse Pelton
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 3:32 PM
> To: 'douglas cohn'; spambayes at python.org
> Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Odd behavior with messages
> 
> If you're hooked up to an Exchange server, it may be putting messages 
> (such as those from JPSoft) in your Junk folder.
> That's the way it is at my workplace, and my sysadmin assures me that 
> there's nothing I can do about it.  So what I've done is to create a 
> Spam folder where I have SpamBayes put messages that it thinks are 
> spam.  I have SpamBayes watch Outlook's Junk E-mail folder; any spam 
> is therefore moved to the Spam folder.  If I find a message there, I 
> know that Exchange thought it was spam but SpamBayes didn't.  1.1 will 
> have a feature that allows ham to be moved, so once that's out, I'll 
> have it move any ham from the Junk E-mail folder to my inbox.
> 
> Of course, if you're not using Exchange or it's not set up to do spam 
> filtering, none of this is relevant to you.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org
> > [mailto:spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org] On Behalf Of 
> > douglas cohn
> > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 2:24 PM
> > To: spambayes at python.org
> > Subject: [Spambayes] Odd behavior with messages
> > 
> > I have noticed some odd behavior with messages from JPSoft mailing 
> > list.
> > 
> > I use XP SP2 SpamBayes Outlook 2003 add-in 1.04.  Attached is log 
> > and error message (Screen clip)
> > 
> > I get messages from the newsgroup and they show a score of 0% yet go 
> > directing into Junk Folders.  Even after repeatedly recovering from 
> > spam they still end up there.  I am guessing that the recovery 
> > applies to the user and not the list.
> > 
> > Isn't there a way to whitelist certain addresses including mailing 
> > lists?
> > 
> > In the log it always says Unable to determine source folder for 
> > message.  I believe that is because of the to: address being a 
> > newsgroup.
> >  Also If I
> > click recover from spam I can no longer move that message to another 
> > folder.
> > I attached the error message I receive.  BUT if I just move the 
> > message before clicking recover from Spam it moves normally.
> > 
> > This is a snippet from attached log (In zip file) Unable to 
> > determine source folder for message 'Re: New Microsoft command 
> > shell' - restoring to Inbox Recovering to folder 'Inbox' and ham 
> > training message 'Re:
> > New Microsoft
> > command shell
> > 
> > The one odd thing about these messages which also affected the 
> > Outlook Junk filter (which I have since disabled) is that the To: 
> > line is the newsgroup address not the email address of the list.
> > 
> > This has happened many times before.
> > 
> > Here is the header
> > Return-Path: 
> > <bounce-jpsoft_support-3356261 at email.sparklist.com> Sun Jun 19
> > 16:38:45 2005
> > Received: from email.sparklist.com [64.62.197.108] by 
> > webmail.gothamweb.net with SMTP;
> >    Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:38:45 -0400
> > Reply-To: "JP Software Support Forum" 
> > <jpsoft_support at email.sparklist.com>
> > From: "Manuel Lopez" <LopezOnWeb at msn.com>
> > Newsgroups: jpsoft_support
> > Subject: New Microsoft command shell
> > Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:38:22 -0500
> > Lines: 14
> > X-Priority: 3
> > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527
> > X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original
> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527
> > To: jpsoft_support
> > X-Mailer: SparkLIST.com Newsgroup Interface
> > List-Unsubscribe: 
> > <mailto:leave-jpsoft_support-3356261U at email.sparklist.com>
> > X-SPARKLIST-Message-Id:
> > <SPARKLIST-3356261-2071457-2005.06.19-13.38.24--dc#inetservers
> > .com at email.spa
> > rklist.com>
> > X-Declude-Sender: bounce-jpsoft_support-3356261 at email.sparklist.com
> > [64.62.197.108]
> > X-Declude-Spoolname: 30237404.EML
> > X-Declude-Scan: Score [0] at 16:38:58 on 19 Jun 2005
> > X-Declude-Fail: None
> > X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->destination
> > X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_Pass
> > X-Rcpt-To: <douglas.cohn at inetservers.com>
> > 
> > Thanks very much
> > 
> > Doug
> >