[Spambayes] Domain name contains the word "spam".
bill.hely at helyholdings.com
Tue Mar 14 03:38:17 CET 2006
Thanks very much for your help guys.
Clarification: I am not using Outlook Express. I am writing about
it - well, SpamBayes actually - so changing clients (always my
own first recommendation) is not an option for this exercise.
Anyway, I am using Outlook Express as the example for all clients
that can't use the Outlook plug-in, as there would have to be
more Outlook Express out there than all the rest put together.
It's a case of satisfy the majority first.
Skip: "spam," in the TO line doesn't work. What's actually placed
in the TO line is "spam;" and you can't filter on the semi-colon.
The best I have been able to come up with so far is to have a
filter with two conditions: "spam" in the TO line AND "spam," in
the Subject. The comma helps a little (thanks Skip, I missed
that) but is obviously not rigidly exclusive.
Tony: I see what you mean about the bug in 1.0.4 - I tried every
which-way to get it to work, but it seems that you just cannot
change the displayed values that are annotated to the TO or
Subject lines. Any edits to the "notate_to:" lines results in no
annotation at all. Since Outlook Express' filters can't read the
X-Spambayes-Classification value in the eMail header, this
doesn't seem to be solvable at the moment.
So the important question for me now is: How far off is the
release of 1.1.x, complete with an installer executable? I'm
reluctant to look into the CVS alternative, as I think it
complicates matters too much for my target audience.
For my own information, to go the CVS route, would I have to
install Python and download the 12 files at:
run setup.py, or is it more complex than that? Sorry, never
encountered Python before SpamBayes.
BTW, is there any documentation available on the legal entries
for bayescustomize.ini? My INI file did not contain some of the
entries that Skip showed. If no documentation, what does
"include_evidence: True" do?
Many thanks for your help.
- Bill H.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:15 AM
> To: skip at pobox.com
> Cc: bill.hely at helyholdings.com; spambayes at python.org
> Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Domain name contains the word "spam".
> [Bill Hely]
> >> I own a domain with "spam" in the domain name so, because of
> >> way the proxy brands eMail, the Outlook Express rules trap
> >> messages to that domain as spam.
> >> I tried changing the [Headers]notate_to: item in
> >> bayescustomize.ini to something more unique, but that didn't
> The string that is added is the value in [Headers]
> header_spam_string. It will get added iff [Headers] notate_to
> contains that string.
> IIRC 1.0.4 has a bug with this that means you'll find it hard
> both. This is fixed in CVS, so if 1.0.4 doesn't have the fix,
> might have to move to that. CVS also has a better notate_to
> (see below), so that could also solve your problem.
> >> The Outlook Express how-to document suggests there is a
> >> work-around, so...
> >> What is it please?
> Don't use Outlook Express <0.5 wink>.
> > I'm not a Windows nor an Outlook Express user, so take this
> > grain of
> > salt... You might try annotating the subject instead of
> the to field
> > (option: notate_subject).
> That would certainly work. The catch then is if you have other
> whose subject that starts with "spam,". (Note that you should
> include the comma in the rule, to avoid catching just "spam").
> > Finally, make sure that Outlook Express's filter rule is
> > restrictive. It should be filtering on "spam,", not just
> "spam". You
> > shouldn't see "spam," in a domain name.
> Note that in 1.1 the 'notate to' system has changed somewhat,
> so that
> it adds header_spam_string at spambayes.invalid. This both makes
> easier to catch without false positives, and doesn't break the
> of the To: header. IIRC Outlook Express considers the comma in
> To header a recipient delimiter, so "spam" (no comma) will be a
> recipient, and I'm not sure if you can filter to include the
> comma or
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