[Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference withSpamBayes

[Jesse Pelton]

Wow. Makes you wonder which is worse, the spam or Outlook's attempts to
deal with it. I wish I could help, but I can't.

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From: Mark Cushman [mailto:mcushman at jasint.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:16 PM
To: Jesse Pelton; spambayes at python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter - interference
withSpamBayes


Office2007's JunkMail filter pre-pends the [SPAM] tag to a subject line
when it thinks its Junk. If one moves the email back into Inbox (or
anther box), you have to click a button, "Mark Not As Spam". I was able
to hide the buttons.

Jesse Pelton <jsp at PKC.com> wrote: 

	Thanks for the feedback. I often wonder how my messages will
fare when I send them out into the wide world with a lunch box and a bus
ticket. It's good to know when one has been able to do some good work.
	 
	I don't understand what you mean by "to not have the [SPAM]
tag." Could you send a screen shot showing what you want to get rid of?
I have a "Spam" column in Outlook's message list, but I think I had to
go through a manual process to create it.

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	From: Mark Cushman [mailto:mcushman at jasint.com] 
	Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:58 AM
	To: Jesse Pelton; spambayes at python.org
	Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter -
interference withSpamBayes
	
	
	I copied your approach; Filtering Inbox and JunkMail. It seems
to work fine. My next gripe would be to not have the [SPAM] tag....
	 
	Overall, it seems to work ok. Thanks for the suggestion.
	
	Jesse Pelton <jsp at PKC.com> wrote:

		I don't think there's a way to kill Outlook's filtering
altogether. I use a 1.1 alpha version of SpamBayes to work around this.
The alphas allow you to tell SpamBayes to move ham as well as spam. I
set up SpamBayes to move certain spam and possible spam into folders
that I create for the purpose and move ham into my inbox. I have it
filter the Outlook junk and junk candidates folders in addition to my
inbox. Outlook does its filtering and then SpamBayes overrides it.
		 
		Inelegant and inefficient (Microsoft's fault, not
SpamBayes') but effective.

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		From: spambayes-bounces at python.org
[mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Cushman
		Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:29 AM
		To: spambayes at python.org
		Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Junk mail filter -
interference withSpamBayes
		
		
		I have a windows vista machine running outlook 2007.
Spam Bayes seems to work fine, but my outlook 2007 Junk Mail filter -
even in the off mode - seems to be doing the same kind of "work" as spam
bayes.  Thus, very little spam makes it into my spam bucket. Naturally,
I prefer spambayes to do my spam filtering.
		 
		Can you add to your faq - or send me the answer - on how
to truly turn the Outlook 2007 Junk Mail filter off?


		Mark Cushman, President
		JASINT CONSULTING AND TECHNOLOGIES, LLC
		240-417-8819 




	Mark Cushman, President
	JASINT CONSULTING AND TECHNOLOGIES, LLC
	240-417-8819 




Mark Cushman, President
JASINT CONSULTING AND TECHNOLOGIES, LLC
240-417-8819
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