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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I just noticed this. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Windows Mail is the replacement for Outlook Express. It comes
with Windows Vista. It is a POP3 mail client, and it probably works with IMAP. Windows
Mail will come with all versions of Windows Vista for the life of Windows
Vista. Windows Live Mail is a different kind of program. You can use it to
replace Windows Mail or Outlook Express on a computer, but Windows Mail will
still continue to come with Windows Vista. WLM is no more the successor to
Windows Mail than Hotmail was to Outlook Express. The same can be said for
Windows Live Search. It is not a successor to the Windows Search Companion, but
it replaces the functionality of the Search Companion when it is installed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In the case of Windows XP being a successor to Windows
Millennium Edition, the difference is that Windows Millennium Edition ceased to
be available after the release of Windows XP. Windows Mail continues to come
with Windows Vista. Also, anybody who says “rationalize the different
investments we had in the email space” can’t be trusted to write
coherently about anything else.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If in a future version of Windows, Windows Live Mail replaces Windows
Mail, then it will be the successor to it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Jesse Pelton
[mailto:jsp@PKC.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Joel Rosenthal; spambayes@python.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Spambayes] Windows Mail - Vista<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Can you cite sources to the contrary? I think I indicated
that I was relying on wikipedia. It's not infallible, but in this case I
think Windows Live Mail (WLM) program manager's blog (</span><a
href="http://morethanmail.spaces.live.com/"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>http://morethanmail.spaces.live.com/</span></a><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>) supports
its information. Among other things, the PM says that "we needed to
rationalize the different investments we had in the email space" and that
"the future of consumer client email per Microsoft [is] Windows Live
Mail." There's also a table in an early post that lists "Features in
Each Release," with columns for "Windows XP OE6," "Vista
Windows Mail," and "Windows Live Mail Desktop." That seems to
indicate that Microsoft thinks of WLM as a successor.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Then there's the installer's behavior. <a
href="http://morethanmail.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!B7DD1FF3F141F9A1!3459.entry">http://morethanmail.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!B7DD1FF3F141F9A1!3459.entry</a> states
that when WLM is installed, Windows Mail and OE shortcuts are replaced with
shortcuts to WLM. If that doesn't indicate an intent to have WLM succeed
Windows Mail, I'm not sure what would.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>In any case, I don't think there's any reason that one product
cannot be the successor to another. (In fact, while one release of a given
product can succeed an earlier release, it seems nonsensical to say that a
product succeeds itself.) For instance, Windows XP is a completely different
animal than Windows ME, but Microsoft successfully positioned XP as the successor
to ME.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Copying the list for posterity. Please reply to all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Joel Rosenthal
[mailto:rojo.editor@verizon.net] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 23, 2007 4:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jesse Pelton<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Spambayes] Windows Mail - Vista</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Windows Live Mail is NOT the successor to Windows Mail. They are
two separate products.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Joel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Furthermore, Windows Mail has already been succeeded by Windows
Live Mail, which is claimed to have a superset of the features in Windows Mail.
See <a href="http://get.live.com/">http://get.live.com/</a>.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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