[Tutor] web programming tutorials?

[Chris Calloway]

On 4/18/2008 11:01 AM, Hansen, Mike wrote:
> I'm curious about
> other tutor list member's thoughts on this. Am I out to lunch on this
> viewpoint?

+1

(In favor of your viewpoint, that is. Not in favor of you being out to 
lunch on this. :)

In the Zope community I see evidence all the time from noobs that tells 
me, oh, you don't know how HTTP requests and responses work, do you?

Honestly, I don't know how anyone could work well with a web framework 
without knowing these things. But many people try. :)

Python makes it so easy to try.

Even with CGI programming, there are some things you need to know about 
this first. Actually, more so.

It's almost like web noobs should start with socket programming. :)

There is a Firefox extension called LiveHTTPHeaders that can be 
illustrative to HTTP noobs. You can see all the requests and response 
headers without any programming:

http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/

The httplib module allows you to experiment with this in Python 
programming once you understand a little about what to put in a request 
by watching a few with LiveHTTPHeaders:

http://docs.python.org/lib/httplib-examples.html

This little $10 book is also indispensable for those on such a learning 
curve:

http://www.amazon.com/HTTP-Pocket-Reference-Hypertext-Transfer/dp/1565928628/

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
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