Mailman 3 August 2025 - Bit-dev

Restoring a backup from old pc to new pc
by André Fettouhi Aug. 26, 2025

Aug. 26, 2025

Hello, I have been using backintime to do backups of my workstation. It has now become time to retire that machine and start using a new one (getting the final parts for the new machine today). My backups are been stored on my TrueNAS server via SSH. I've looked at the documentation under how to restore backups but it really doesn't seem to cover my case of restoring to a fresh install on a new PC. How would I restore my backups from my old pc to my new pc with backintime? Kind Regards André Fettouhi

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Back In Time 1.3.3-4 -> which *-keyring?
by sawbona＠gmx.net Aug. 12, 2025

Aug. 12, 2025

Hello: My Linux box runs BiT 1.3.3-4, the latest version available in the repositories. [code] $ apt list | grep installed | grep backintime --- snip --- backintime-common/stable,stable,now 1.3.3-4 all [installed] backintime-qt/stable,stable,now 1.3.3-4 all [installed,automatic] $ [/code] Have used it for the longest time, saved my files more than once. Thanks to all those involved for that. That said, I have something to which I need some insight into: 1. I understand that BiT will use whatever available keyring it finds. 2. For reasons, it turns out that my system has more than one keyring available: [code] $ apt list | grep installed | grep keyring --- snip --- debian-archive-keyring/stable,stable,now 2023.3+deb12u2 all [installed] devuan-keyring/stable,stable,now 2023.05.28 all [installed] gnome-keyring/stable,now 42.1-1+b2 amd64 [installed] python3-keyring/stable,stable,now 23.9.3-2 all [installed,automatic] python3-keyrings.alt/stable,stable,now 4.2.0-1 all [installed,automatic] $ [/code] I'm not a fan of gnome 'anything' and as a result I only have one gnome application installed: gnome-disk-utility, which is actually quite handy. Recently, wondering if gnome-keyring was used by gnome-disk-utility, I asked aptitude ... [code] $ aptitude why gnome-keyring i backintime-common Depends python3-keyring i A python3-keyring Depends python3-secretstorage (>= 3.2) i A python3-secretstorage Recommends gnome-keyring | libkf5wallet-bin (>= 5.97) | keepassxc $ [/code] ... only to find out that it is (indirectly) used by backintime-common. ie: backintime-common >depends> python3-keyring >depends> python3-secretstorage >recommends gnome-keyring |or| libkf5wallet-bin (>= 5.97) |or| keepassxc As libkf5wallet-bin seems to be a transitional package which can be removed (if it were installed), the only options for BiT would be gnome-keyring or keepassxc. But it happens that if I purge gnome-keyring, BiT won't work and keepassxs is not installed. Q1: why are gnome-keyring and keepassxc 'recommended' packages and not dependencies? Just asking, seems odd. Q2: how could I safely (and not breaking anything) switch from gnome-keyring to keepassxc? The less gnome I have, the better. Thanks in advance. Best, JHM

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(Fwd) Re: Back In Time 1.3.3-4 -> which *-keyring?
by sawbona＠gmx.net Aug. 4, 2025

Aug. 4, 2025

Hello: On 4 Aug 2025 at 18:53, Maytham Alsudany wrote: > > ... switch from gnome-keyring to keepassxc? > ... installing keepassxc and removing gnome-keyring should work? Once I was advised that keppassxc required network access, it ceased to be an option. > ... should also be able to have none of these options installed and it should work ... But, as I mentioned earlier in the thread, it does not. [quote] The thing is that when I saw that gnome-keyring was a *recommends* I purged it. But then BiT would not work, so I had to re-install it and things went back to normal. [/quote] It would seem (?) that the issue at hand is related to this bug report: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- backintime-qt: Fails to access the keyring with python3-keyring 23.2.0-1 <https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=998105> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It is all well over my head. Nevertheless, I will see if I can understand what the mentioned patch is about. <https://salsa.debian.org/jmw/pkg-backintime/-/merge_requests/9> That said, and as long as BiT works with gnome-keyring installed, I will have to wait and see if the reported bug actually gets fixed in Debian upstream (still present in Bookworm) and then enabled in the Devuan repositories. Thanks for your input. Best, JHM

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Re: Back In Time 1.3.3-4 -> which *-keyring?
by sawbona＠gmx.net Aug. 4, 2025

Aug. 4, 2025

Hello c.buhtz: On 4 Aug 2025 at 9:29, c.buhtz(a)posteo.jp wrote: > I don't have a clear answer ... Don't worry, you do enough already. > Maybe someone else on the list ... Of course. Let's see if any one of the contributors to the original bug report have time to post something. At least there is a clear idea with respect to what the problem is. > ... also refer to the FAQ. > ... get an idea about our workflow, priorities ... I am a long time user of BiT. Memory is hazy but it must have been when I installed Devuan Jesse or ascii. That being the case, I am quite aware of where it was and how you chaps stepped in. The torch was passed on, very grateful both to those who came before you and for your taking up the slack. Thanks for your input. Best, JHM

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