Hello,
Just wanted to drop you a line that the Pylint website http://www.pylint.org/ is down, as I can see locally, on our CIs (I initially noticed it when our docs build failed due to sphinx linkcheck detecting the pylint links as broken) and on isup.me.
Also, as it seems you have a working HTTPS implementation it would be prudent to change your published links over to that.
Thanks,
*C.A.M. Gerlach*
On Wed, 2018-05-30 at 13:59 -0500, C.A.M. Gerlach wrote:
Just wanted to drop you a line that the Pylint website http://www.pylint.org/ is down, as I can see locally, on our CIs (I initially noticed it when our docs build failed due to sphinx linkcheck detecting the pylint links as broken) and on isup.me.
Looks like the domain didn't get renewed:
$ whois pylint.org Domain Name: PYLINT.ORG Registry Domain ID: D165693465-LROR Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.gandi.net Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net Updated Date: 2018-05-30T12:17:21Z Creation Date: 2012-05-30T14:09:25Z Registry Expiry Date: 2018-05-30T14:09:25Z […] Registrant Organization: Logilab […]
Maybe Sylvain (in CC:) knows if this is intentional or not?
On Thu, 31 May 2018, Jan Claeys wrote:
Looks like the domain didn't get renewed:
$ whois pylint.org Domain Name: PYLINT.ORG Registry Domain ID: D165693465-LROR Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.gandi.net Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net Updated Date: 2018-05-30T12:17:21Z Creation Date: 2012-05-30T14:09:25Z Registry Expiry Date: 2018-05-30T14:09:25Z […] Registrant Organization: Logilab […]
I asked about the pyreverse engineering tool within pylint and was told by Logilab they're no longer supporting pylint or pyreverse. I've not found a satisfactory replacement for the latter but am using pdb which comes with python3.
Rich
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Rich Shepard rshepard@appl-ecosys.com wrote:
On Thu, 31 May 2018, Jan Claeys wrote:
Looks like the domain didn't get renewed:
$ whois pylint.org Domain Name: PYLINT.ORG Registry Domain ID: D165693465-LROR Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.gandi.net Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net Updated Date: 2018-05-30T12:17:21Z Creation Date: 2012-05-30T14:09:25Z Registry Expiry Date: 2018-05-30T14:09:25Z […] Registrant Organization: Logilab […]
I asked about the pyreverse engineering tool within pylint and was told by Logilab they're no longer supporting pylint or pyreverse. I've not found a satisfactory replacement for the latter but am using pdb which comes with python3.
Seriously? https://www.pylint.org/ seems to work, and has no mention of a pylint orphaniing.
Hi folks,
Just to clarify some things running around:
- yes, pylint.org seems to be down for me as well. As mentioned earlier, the domain doesn't seem to have been renewed. As you already saw, the owner of the domain is Logilab and they used to host this website for quite some years. - as mentioned in a comment here, pylint and respectively pyreverse and astroid are no longer maintained by Logilab. They are actively maintained though under the PyCQA organization, where these projects have been for the past four years or so. As such there is no pylint orphaning happening, as the project is now, for quite some time, a PyCQA project. - There is a disconnect between the domain being under Logilab but the project being under PyCQA. We haven't talked in the past about this with Logilab but I think that the domain should also be handled by PyCQA as well.
Hope this clarifies the situation a little bit.
Claudiu
On Thu, May 31, 2018, 08:41 Dan Stromberg strombrg@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Rich Shepard rshepard@appl-ecosys.com wrote:
On Thu, 31 May 2018, Jan Claeys wrote:
Looks like the domain didn't get renewed:
$ whois pylint.org Domain Name: PYLINT.ORG Registry Domain ID: D165693465-LROR Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.gandi.net Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net Updated Date: 2018-05-30T12:17:21Z Creation Date: 2012-05-30T14:09:25Z Registry Expiry Date: 2018-05-30T14:09:25Z […] Registrant Organization: Logilab […]
I asked about the pyreverse engineering tool within pylint and was told by Logilab they're no longer supporting pylint or pyreverse. I've not found a satisfactory replacement for the latter but am using pdb which comes with python3.
Seriously? https://www.pylint.org/ seems to work, and has no mention of a pylint orphaniing.
-- Dan Stromberg _______________________________________________ code-quality mailing list code-quality@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/code-quality
There's no organization around managing domains for the PyCQA.
http://pylint.pycqa.org is up and running and has been for a while. It doesn't have HTTPS set up though and I'm not sure if that's pointing at the right place.
Also, pylint.org is not available for purchase at the moment.
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 7:50 PM, Claudiu Popa pcmanticore@gmail.com wrote:
Hi folks,
Just to clarify some things running around:
- yes, pylint.org seems to be down for me as well. As mentioned earlier, the
domain doesn't seem to have been renewed. As you already saw, the owner of the domain is Logilab and they used to host this website for quite some years.
- as mentioned in a comment here, pylint and respectively pyreverse and
astroid are no longer maintained by Logilab. They are actively maintained though under the PyCQA organization, where these projects have been for the past four years or so. As such there is no pylint orphaning happening, as the project is now, for quite some time, a PyCQA project.
- There is a disconnect between the domain being under Logilab but the
project being under PyCQA. We haven't talked in the past about this with Logilab but I think that the domain should also be handled by PyCQA as well.
Hope this clarifies the situation a little bit.
Claudiu
On Thu, May 31, 2018, 08:41 Dan Stromberg strombrg@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Rich Shepard rshepard@appl-ecosys.com wrote:
On Thu, 31 May 2018, Jan Claeys wrote:
Looks like the domain didn't get renewed:
$ whois pylint.org Domain Name: PYLINT.ORG Registry Domain ID: D165693465-LROR Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.gandi.net Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net Updated Date: 2018-05-30T12:17:21Z Creation Date: 2012-05-30T14:09:25Z Registry Expiry Date: 2018-05-30T14:09:25Z […] Registrant Organization: Logilab […]
I asked about the pyreverse engineering tool within pylint and was told by Logilab they're no longer supporting pylint or pyreverse. I've not found a satisfactory replacement for the latter but am using pdb which comes with python3.
Seriously? https://www.pylint.org/ seems to work, and has no mention of a pylint orphaniing.
-- Dan Stromberg _______________________________________________ code-quality mailing list code-quality@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/code-quality
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Hi Ian,
Thanks for the reply, on a second thought, it actually makes sense in not administrating domains. But given I was mildly aware of pylint.pycqa.org, is there something we can do to make it more prominent as I am sure that other folks are unaware of it as well? The odd thing with pylint.org and astroid.org is that folks expect those two places to be the authoritative sources for pylint and astroid respectively, while we should gently nudge the interested people toward pycqa.org instead.
On Thu, May 31, 2018, 08:57 Ian Stapleton Cordasco < graffatcolmingov@gmail.com> wrote:
There's no organization around managing domains for the PyCQA.
http://pylint.pycqa.org is up and running and has been for a while. It doesn't have HTTPS set up though and I'm not sure if that's pointing at the right place.
Also, pylint.org is not available for purchase at the moment.
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 7:50 PM, Claudiu Popa pcmanticore@gmail.com wrote:
Hi folks,
Just to clarify some things running around:
- yes, pylint.org seems to be down for me as well. As mentioned
earlier, the
domain doesn't seem to have been renewed. As you already saw, the owner
of
the domain is Logilab and they used to host this website for quite some years.
- as mentioned in a comment here, pylint and respectively pyreverse and
astroid are no longer maintained by Logilab. They are actively maintained though under the PyCQA organization, where these projects have been for
the
past four years or so. As such there is no pylint orphaning happening, as the project is now, for quite some time, a PyCQA project.
- There is a disconnect between the domain being under Logilab but the
project being under PyCQA. We haven't talked in the past about this with Logilab but I think that the domain should also be handled by PyCQA as
well.
Hope this clarifies the situation a little bit.
Claudiu
On Thu, May 31, 2018, 08:41 Dan Stromberg strombrg@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Rich Shepard <rshepard@appl-ecosys.com
wrote:
On Thu, 31 May 2018, Jan Claeys wrote:
Looks like the domain didn't get renewed:
$ whois pylint.org Domain Name: PYLINT.ORG Registry Domain ID: D165693465-LROR Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.gandi.net Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net Updated Date: 2018-05-30T12:17:21Z Creation Date: 2012-05-30T14:09:25Z Registry Expiry Date: 2018-05-30T14:09:25Z […] Registrant Organization: Logilab […]
I asked about the pyreverse engineering tool within pylint and was
told
by Logilab they're no longer supporting pylint or pyreverse. I've not
found
a satisfactory replacement for the latter but am using pdb which comes
with
python3.
Seriously? https://www.pylint.org/ seems to work, and has no mention
of a
pylint orphaniing.
-- Dan Stromberg _______________________________________________ code-quality mailing list code-quality@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/code-quality
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On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 8:04 PM, Claudiu Popa pcmanticore@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Ian,
Thanks for the reply, on a second thought, it actually makes sense in not administrating domains.
I really don't mind either way. I just don't know if I want to administer too many. My wife and I broke our MX records for our custom domain the other weekend.
But given I was mildly aware of pylint.pycqa.org, is there something we can do to make it more prominent as I am sure that other folks are unaware of it as well?
There are some things. I think readthedocs will allow you to set up a domain as your default domain (so if someone goes to pylint.readthedocs.io it maybe redirects to pylint.pycqa.org). There are also project/PyPI URLs you can configure.
Unfortunately, I think pylint.org/astroid.org have been around for so long that the number of references may be too high to switch domains at this point.
The odd thing with pylint.org and astroid.org is that folks expect those two places to be the authoritative sources for pylint and astroid respectively, while we should gently nudge the interested people toward pycqa.org instead.
It may make sense to renew pylint.org/astroid.org and start redirecting those to the appropriate pycqa.org subdomains.
I kind of wish that the Logilab people had given us the opportunity to handle this better. It seems we both use gandi.net so they could have transferred the domains to me or someone else and we could have prevented this all from happening while planning a smoother transition.
On Thu, May 31, 2018, 08:57 Ian Stapleton Cordasco graffatcolmingov@gmail.com wrote:
There's no organization around managing domains for the PyCQA.
http://pylint.pycqa.org is up and running and has been for a while. It doesn't have HTTPS set up though and I'm not sure if that's pointing at the right place.
Also, pylint.org is not available for purchase at the moment.
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 7:50 PM, Claudiu Popa pcmanticore@gmail.com wrote:
Hi folks,
Just to clarify some things running around:
- yes, pylint.org seems to be down for me as well. As mentioned earlier,
the domain doesn't seem to have been renewed. As you already saw, the owner of the domain is Logilab and they used to host this website for quite some years.
- as mentioned in a comment here, pylint and respectively pyreverse and
astroid are no longer maintained by Logilab. They are actively maintained though under the PyCQA organization, where these projects have been for the past four years or so. As such there is no pylint orphaning happening, as the project is now, for quite some time, a PyCQA project.
- There is a disconnect between the domain being under Logilab but the
project being under PyCQA. We haven't talked in the past about this with Logilab but I think that the domain should also be handled by PyCQA as well.
Hope this clarifies the situation a little bit.
Claudiu
On Thu, May 31, 2018, 08:41 Dan Stromberg strombrg@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Rich Shepard rshepard@appl-ecosys.com wrote:
On Thu, 31 May 2018, Jan Claeys wrote:
Looks like the domain didn't get renewed:
$ whois pylint.org Domain Name: PYLINT.ORG Registry Domain ID: D165693465-LROR Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.gandi.net Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net Updated Date: 2018-05-30T12:17:21Z Creation Date: 2012-05-30T14:09:25Z Registry Expiry Date: 2018-05-30T14:09:25Z […] Registrant Organization: Logilab […]
I asked about the pyreverse engineering tool within pylint and was told by Logilab they're no longer supporting pylint or pyreverse. I've not found a satisfactory replacement for the latter but am using pdb which comes with python3.
Seriously? https://www.pylint.org/ seems to work, and has no mention of a pylint orphaniing.
-- Dan Stromberg _______________________________________________ code-quality mailing list code-quality@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/code-quality
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On Wed, 30 May 2018, Dan Stromberg wrote:
Seriously? https://www.pylint.org/ seems to work, and has no mention of a pylint orphaniing.
Dan,
Here's my message to logilab and their reply:
From nicolas.chauvat@logilab.fr Mon May 14 04:55:59 2018
Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 13:55:36 +0200 From: Nicolas Chauvat nicolas.chauvat@logilab.fr To: Rich Shepard rshepard@appl-ecosys.com Cc: contact@logilab.fr Subject: Re: Using pylint/pyreverse with Python3
Hi,
On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 09:50:29AM -0700, Rich Shepard wrote:
Here, both python-3.6.5 and pylint-1.7.1 are installed. When I try to run pyreverse on python3 code it finds only the python-2.7 version and will not run. Please advise me how to invoke pylint and pyreverse with python3 source code.
We do not maintain pylint and pyreverse anymore.
Please ask code-quality@python.org or look for an answer at https://gitlab.com/pycqa
Best,
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