On 2 Jan 2016 07:37, "R. David Murray" <rdmurray@bitdance.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 20:25:11 +0000, Stefan Krah <skrah.temporarily@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Brett Cannon <brett@...> writes:
> > > I don't think this will be a shock to anyone who has followed the
> > discussion on this list. The decision is essentially based on:
> >
> > We must have been reading different discussions: On *this* list more
> > people were in favor of GitLab! Except for Guido, Donald and Senthil
> > (on python-committers) no one has even bothered to post an explicit
> > +1 for GitHub.
> >
> > It's very disappointing that GitHub proponents apparently felt the
> > need to contact you privately instead of stating their opinions in
> > the open.
> The impression I got here was Barry advocating GitLab (of course), and
> you arguing against GitHub (but not, particularly, in favor of GitLab).
> Everything else was down at the noise level :)
> Me, I don't care one way or the other, as long as we aren't locking
> ourselves in to either.
> Now, the fact that people felt it better to contact Brett privately to
> advocate for GitHub is indeed interesting, and yes, disappointing.  The
> interesting question is, why is that?  Perhaps it is what was alluded to
> earlier, that favoring the "commercial alternative" is seen as "bad" in
> terms of what we might label as "virtue signalling"?  Which would be
> weird, because GitLab isn't non-commercial.  So maybe there's some other
> reason (because GitHub is the big gorilla and people think it is
> "better" to favor the underdog?), but I wonder if it still comes down to
> virtue signalling (or, rather, not wanting to signal non-virtue, in this
> case).
> So I agree with you, it would be great if people would openly speak
> their minds, as Guido did :)
> On the other hand, it might just be a matter of the "usenet nod", and
> not wanting to "clutter up the list" with a "me too".  You did get some
> pushback against your arguments, to which people may have been nodding.
> --David
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