On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 20:25:11 +0000, Stefan Krah firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Brett Cannon <brett@...> writes:
I don't think this will be a shock to anyone who has followed the
discussion on this list. The decision is essentially based on:
We must have been reading different discussions: On *this* list more people were in favor of GitLab! Except for Guido, Donald and Senthil (on python-committers) no one has even bothered to post an explicit +1 for GitHub.
It's very disappointing that GitHub proponents apparently felt the need to contact you privately instead of stating their opinions in the open.
The impression I got here was Barry advocating GitLab (of course), and you arguing against GitHub (but not, particularly, in favor of GitLab). Everything else was down at the noise level :)
Me, I don't care one way or the other, as long as we aren't locking ourselves in to either.
Now, the fact that people felt it better to contact Brett privately to advocate for GitHub is indeed interesting, and yes, disappointing. The interesting question is, why is that? Perhaps it is what was alluded to earlier, that favoring the "commercial alternative" is seen as "bad" in terms of what we might label as "virtue signalling"? Which would be weird, because GitLab isn't non-commercial. So maybe there's some other reason (because GitHub is the big gorilla and people think it is "better" to favor the underdog?), but I wonder if it still comes down to virtue signalling (or, rather, not wanting to signal non-virtue, in this case).
So I agree with you, it would be great if people would openly speak their minds, as Guido did :)
On the other hand, it might just be a matter of the "usenet nod", and not wanting to "clutter up the list" with a "me too". You did get some pushback against your arguments, to which people may have been nodding.