Questions about the core workflow
[Nick]
I honestly don't know how the different areas of concern break down across the core contributor base, and I've seen enough demands for free software and privacy advocates to "stop being unreasonable" in various contexts to suspect that an anonymous survey (that is still somehow restricted to core developers) would be the only way to get an even halfway accurate assessment.
I fully agree. Since 5 years or so stating any kind of opinion that remotely resembles the original free software principles (by that I don't mean necessarily Stallman's views, just a basic desire for decency, privacy, and a free and open atmosphere) is shouted down vigorously. Here, we are still fortunate enough to have people like you who at least tried the open Kallithea approach! [For the record, I'll need a work related GitHub account from next year on. I'll probably give up and move my private projects there, too, because honestly I'm tired of constantly defending minority opinions.] Stefan Krah
On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Stefan Krah <skrah.temporarily@gmail.com> wrote:
Since 5 years or so stating any kind of opinion that remotely resembles the original free software principles (by that I don't mean necessarily Stallman's views, just a basic desire for decency, privacy, and a free and open atmosphere) is shouted down vigorously.
Who is shouting you down here? We listen, but AFAICT few agree. There's not much of a chance to change anybody's mind on a loaded topic like this, so a further discussion does not seem very useful. -- --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
On 13 December 2015 at 05:00, Guido van Rossum <guido@python.org> wrote:
On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Stefan Krah <skrah.temporarily@gmail.com> wrote:
Since 5 years or so stating any kind of opinion that remotely resembles the original free software principles (by that I don't mean necessarily Stallman's views, just a basic desire for decency, privacy, and a free and open atmosphere) is shouted down vigorously.
Who is shouting you down here? We listen, but AFAICT few agree. There's not much of a chance to change anybody's mind on a loaded topic like this, so a further discussion does not seem very useful.
The Python core lists are generally free of it, but the vitriol directed at GPL and AGPL advocates on the internet at large can be astonishing in its hostility (usually by people exploiting permissive licenses to write proprietary software, and being upset when folks use the legal system to create an obligation for reciprocal sharing). Regards, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan | ncoghlan@gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia
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