
Hi all, I have read the workflow in the code of Bedevere (https://github.com/python/bedevere/blob/master/bedevere/stage.py#L7), and there is one thing I do not understand. Here is the PR - https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/5132 Steps: 1. label: "awaiting review" 2. I did the review and ask for some changes, so in this case, I don't approve the review. 3. the label has been changed to "awaiting core review" by Bedevere, but Why? I requested some changes and the PR is not in "awaiting changes" For me, normally, the label should be on "awaiting changes" and after a new commit/message from the author, the label should be "awaiting review" Thank you, Stéphane -- Stéphane Wirtel - https://wirtel.be - @matrixise

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 6:12 PM, Stephane Wirtel <stephane@wirtel.be> wrote:
For me, normally, the label should be on "awaiting changes" and after a new commit/message from the author, the label should be "awaiting review"
The reviewer wasn't a core developer so we need to get a approval/review from a core developer before moving to the next step (for example, a core developer may disagree with the non-core reviewer's comments or suggest a different approach) --Berker

On Tue, 15 May 2018 at 13:03 Berker Peksağ <berker.peksag@gmail.com> wrote:
And the reason we want a core review is we have no idea if the review by a non-core reviewer is reasonable. E.g. someone might be extremely pedantic about PEP 8 when a core dev wouldn't be in all situations, so holding up a PR for that wouldn't be fair for the PR submitter.

On 05/16, Brett Cannon wrote:
Is there an intermediate status, like 'non-core reviewer' where the reviewer could requests changes on a PR and keep the status 'await changes' or 'await review'? By the way, maybe we could increase the number of reviewers and improve the quality of the reviews. The core dev would be more "confident" with the reviews from a 'reviewer'. For the rewiews of code, the workflow could be this one "Contributor" -> "Reviewer" -> "Core-Dev" ? -- Stéphane Wirtel - http://wirtel.be - @matrixise

On Wed, 23 May 2018 at 06:59 Stephane Wirtel <stephane@wirtel.be> wrote:
It would require creating a list somewhere of GitHub usernames that Bedevere can read from to determine who the "reviewers" are whose reviews we trust. Then again, if someone gets that far we might want to just give them commit rights at that point. -Brett
-- Stéphane Wirtel - http://wirtel.be - @matrixise

On 05/23, Brett Cannon wrote:
Maybe some contributors would be interested by this status of "reviewers". Sorry for the delay, the last week I was too busy with my job :/ -- Stéphane Wirtel - http://wirtel.be - @matrixise

On 05/15, Berker Peksağ wrote:
Sorry for this late reply but I was busy just after the PyCon US and the CPython sprints. Thanks for your explanation. Stéphane
-- Stéphane Wirtel - http://wirtel.be - @matrixise

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 6:12 PM, Stephane Wirtel <stephane@wirtel.be> wrote:
For me, normally, the label should be on "awaiting changes" and after a new commit/message from the author, the label should be "awaiting review"
The reviewer wasn't a core developer so we need to get a approval/review from a core developer before moving to the next step (for example, a core developer may disagree with the non-core reviewer's comments or suggest a different approach) --Berker

On Tue, 15 May 2018 at 13:03 Berker Peksağ <berker.peksag@gmail.com> wrote:
And the reason we want a core review is we have no idea if the review by a non-core reviewer is reasonable. E.g. someone might be extremely pedantic about PEP 8 when a core dev wouldn't be in all situations, so holding up a PR for that wouldn't be fair for the PR submitter.

On 05/16, Brett Cannon wrote:
Is there an intermediate status, like 'non-core reviewer' where the reviewer could requests changes on a PR and keep the status 'await changes' or 'await review'? By the way, maybe we could increase the number of reviewers and improve the quality of the reviews. The core dev would be more "confident" with the reviews from a 'reviewer'. For the rewiews of code, the workflow could be this one "Contributor" -> "Reviewer" -> "Core-Dev" ? -- Stéphane Wirtel - http://wirtel.be - @matrixise

On Wed, 23 May 2018 at 06:59 Stephane Wirtel <stephane@wirtel.be> wrote:
It would require creating a list somewhere of GitHub usernames that Bedevere can read from to determine who the "reviewers" are whose reviews we trust. Then again, if someone gets that far we might want to just give them commit rights at that point. -Brett
-- Stéphane Wirtel - http://wirtel.be - @matrixise

On 05/23, Brett Cannon wrote:
Maybe some contributors would be interested by this status of "reviewers". Sorry for the delay, the last week I was too busy with my job :/ -- Stéphane Wirtel - http://wirtel.be - @matrixise

On 05/15, Berker Peksağ wrote:
Sorry for this late reply but I was busy just after the PyCon US and the CPython sprints. Thanks for your explanation. Stéphane
-- Stéphane Wirtel - http://wirtel.be - @matrixise
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