Is this you? If you are the same Chris Herringshaw that I hung around with in Cass City, please reply. If not, I apologize for having wasted your time. Bob Battel Bob Battel Extension Educator, Farm Management Serving Northwest Lower Michigan Osceola MSU Extension 301 W. Upton Ave. Reed City, MI 49677 Phone: 231.832.7342 Please make a note new e-mail address: battelro@msu.edu