Mailman 3 November 1998 - Distutils-SIG

[Distutils-sig] distutils charter and interscript
by John Skaller 29 Apr '18

29 Apr '18

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[Distutils-sig] Compiler module available for comment
by John Skaller 30 Nov '98

30 Nov '98

This is to advise that I have already implemented Python modules with the ability to compile C or C++ Python dynamically loadable modules C or C++ external applications and these are incorporated in interscript in the 'compilers' subdirectory. The implementation is not important. What is important is the _interface_ provided. Please examine. I would appreciate any comments on the generality of the interface. In my opinion, these modules should be in the standard distribution, and be hooked by 'import' so that C/C++ extension developers don't have to provide _any_ makefiles or other installation crud. Just copy the C file into the right place and it gets compiled automatically, just like a .py file gets compiled to a .pyc file automatically. Obviously, this technology cannot handle linking to arbitrary libraries in a platform independent way -- but it will handle a large class of C modules of the kind 'Could be done in Python, but C is faster'. ------------------------------------------------------- John Skaller email: skaller(a)maxtal.com.au http://www.maxtal.com.au/~skaller phone: 61-2-96600850 snail: 10/1 Toxteth Rd, Glebe NSW 2037, Australia

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[Distutils-sig] (fwd) PROPOSAL: XML based Make for C++, Perl, Python, Java
by Markus Fleck 28 Nov '98

28 Nov '98

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[Distutils-sig] Charter for this SIG
by Greg Ward 25 Nov '98

25 Nov '98

distutils-sig: forum to discuss module distribution utilities for Python The distutils sig exists to discuss the design and implementation of a suite of module distribution utilities for Python. These utilities will take the form of some standard modules, probably grouped in the 'distutils' package, for building, packaging, and installing third-party modules. This includes both modules written purely in Python and extension modules written in C/C++. The main deliverable will be the following core modules (in the distutils package): build - provides code for building a module, which might include copying .py files into a staging area, compiling and linking .c files, processing documentation to an installable form, etc. dist - create a source distribution bdist - create a 'built distribution' (the equivalent of a 'binary distribution', except that binaries won't necessarily be present install - install a built library on the local machine gen_make - generate a Makefile to do some of the above tasks (mainly 'build', for developer convenience and efficiency) I will tentatively put forward March 1999 as a target for a working release to run on top of Python 1.5.2, which *might* require a patch-and-rebuild-Python step (or might find ways to work with the information available under 1.5). For a complete, tested, documented suite ready to bundle with Python 1.6, let's shoot for June 1999. Other topics of interest: * encouraging module developers to write test suites by having a standard place for them in module distributions * ditto for documentation -- although this is probably the job of the doc-sig, it would be nice to tie the two together at some point * a standard for representing and comparing version numbers * social engineering in general, ie. convincing module developers to start using the system * the possible need for tweaks to the configure/build process for Python itself, and a place to hold configuration information (possibly a new built-in module, 'sys.config') * possibly rewriting the configure/build/install process for Python 1.6 -- especially useful if the distutils are bundled with 1.6! * ties to Trove -- any module distribution scheme must include a way to describe the package metadata, and there will need to be hooks between any future Trove archive for Python and this metadata * recognizing SWIG-assisted extensions in addition to "ordinary" C extensions The starting point for discussion on the sig will be the summary of the IPC7 Developer's Day session which got this whole thing rolling: http://www.foretec.com/python/workshops/1998-11/dd-ward-sum.html

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[Distutils-sig] Test message
by Greg Ward 25 Nov '98

25 Nov '98

Hello to everyone out there in distutils-sig land (just me, so far). Let the fun begin! Greg

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Distutils-SIG November 1998