Mailman 3 April 2000 - Distutils-SIG

Distutils 0.8.2 released
by Greg Ward 25 Apr '00

25 Apr '00

Right, as threatened, I've checked in fixes to those two paper-bag-over-my-head bugs, as well as the new bztar feature, and release Distutils 0.8.2. Hey wow, that's cool -- technically speaking, I didn't have to write *any* code for this release -- just check in patches! Thanks, Lyle and Harry! Here's the entry from CHANGES.txt: Release 0.8.2 (24 April, 2000): ------------------------------- * bug fix: --help option failed due to over-eager refactoring in 0.8.1 (thanks to Harry Henry Gebel) * bug fix: conversion of Unix-style paths to Windows style fixed (so the sdist command should be portable now) (thanks to Lyle Johnson) * added bztar format to generate .tar.bz2 source distributions (thanks to Harry Henry Gebel) -- Greg Ward - just another /P(erl|ython)/ hacker gward(a)python.net http://starship.python.net/~gward/ I can never remember how to spell "mnemonic".

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Re: --help not working in 0.8.1 (w/patch)
by Lyle Johnson 25 Apr '00

25 Apr '00

> BTW, has anyone other than me successfully used the "sdist" command, > specifically written and processed a MANIFEST.in file, under Windows > yet? Looks like there's a bug in the native_path() function and that's why the forward-slashes in commands like this: include/autotest.py don't get translated into Windows-style paths like this: include\autotest.py I think once you look at the current implementation of native_path() you'll see the problem; but I've attached a patch which I think does what you originally intended there. Hope this helps, Lyle

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Re: [Distutils] Revisiting the "pkginfo" patch
by Michael Muller 25 Apr '00

25 Apr '00

Greg Ward wrote: [snip] > But I still don't think this is the place for lists-of-files-built or > lists-of-file-installed. As it happens, I have made some renovations to > the code to accomodate this sort of thing; now, you get those list by > calling the 'get_outputs()' method on the build or install command > objects. I think the list-of-files-installed really is the property of > the class that does the installation, and I don't see a big need to keep > a copy of that list with the "package meta-data" -- yes, this is > information that should be installed with the meta-data, but it isn't > really meta-data per se (IMHO). Perhaps we're quibbling over semantics here: my definition of meta-data is "information about the package that is installed with the package", in other words, DistributionMetadata + the installed file list. Since we both seem to agree that all of this information should be installed with the package, maybe we should use another term to describe this complete set. Anyway, this is what PackageInfo attempts to address. [snip] > If people want to make RPMs, they will use the "bdist_rpm" command -- > when it exists. ;-) A prototype is "bdist_dumb", which generates a zip True, and I suppose that if you're using RPMs, you would just use the RPM command or one of it's many fine graphical wrappers to deal with the RPM database. However, I still maintain that is is desirable to have a single interface that can be specialized to whatever package information repository is preferred by the system administrator. Consider the case where I have a number of packages installed using RPM. Now I download a source release and use (some future version of) the distutils "install" command. Shouldn't "install" be able to determine whether its dependencies are satisfied from the RPM packages as well as its own? I'm not saying that we should implement an RPM front end, just that the interface should be clean and independent enough so that it could _wrap_ an RPM interface. [snip] > Ahh, I thought it was something like that. I'm also starting think your > original pprint-and-execfile approach was better. Arghh! Maybe a :-). Well, I still have the original code... Maybe the best way to prove a point is to implement the alternative. > syntax with fragments of Python code to define the complicated > structures would be a good compromise. Hmmm... in any case, I think > it's moving away from something simple enough for ConfigParser to be > appropriate. Actually, I was thinking about something along these lines Friday night while looking through the funky python-to-english code in the last patch. The hybrid you've suggested might look something like this: if is_trivial_string(item): print '%s: %s' % (attr, item) else: print '%s: ', pprint.pprint(item) Parsing then just becomes a matter of checking for any special characters at the beginning of the value (quote, bracket...). Numbers might cause a problem. You could define a trivial string to exclude strings that begin with a number, but then what about version numbers? Should they have to be quoted? Maybe there should just be a special quoting character around everything but a trivial string. But alas, I'm rambling... ============================================================================= michaelMuller = mmuller(a)enduden.com | http://www.cloud9.net/~proteus ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain control. - Thomas Jefferson =============================================================================

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Little tiny patch
by Harry Henry Gebel 24 Apr '00

24 Apr '00

This correct a small error in the distutils.core.setup docstring where it refers to class Distribution as still being in distutils.core . -- Harry Henry Gebel, Senior Developer, Landon House SBS West Dover Hundred, Delaware "Why do you look for the living among the dead? He is not here, but has risen." Luke 24:5 (NRSV)

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Patch again (sorry)
by Harry Henry Gebel 24 Apr '00

24 Apr '00

When I tested the bzip2 patch I had bzip after compress, but when I made the patch I switched them and I forgot to but a comma after bzip2, this patch has the comma. -- Harry Henry Gebel, Senior Developer, Landon House SBS West Dover Hundred, Delaware "Why do you look for the living among the dead? He is not here, but has risen." Luke 24:5 (NRSV)

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Distutils RPM
by Harry Henry Gebel 23 Apr '00

23 Apr '00

I don't know if anyone is interested, but there is are Distutils RPMs available at my FTP site: ftp://pyncurses.sourceforge.net/pub/pyncurses/ Happy Easter! -- Harry Henry Gebel, Senior Developer, Landon House SBS West Dover Hundred, Delaware "Why do you look for the living among the dead? He is not here, but has risen." Luke 24:5 (NRSV)

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INSTALL file
by Harry Henry Gebel 23 Apr '00

23 Apr '00

I thought some people might find a generic INSTALL file like the one supplied with programs that use ./configure, here is one I prepared that gives a few lines with the most-common-case installation instructions and gives the complete ./setup.py help output. -- Harry Henry Gebel, Senior Developer, Landon House SBS West Dover Hundred, Delaware PyNcurses: python binding for ncurses http://pyncurses.sourceforge.net

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--help not working in 0.8.1 (w/patch)
by Harry Henry Gebel 23 Apr '00

23 Apr '00

The --help argument is not working in Distutils v0.8.1 . The problem is caused by two things: FancyGetopt.generate_help() does not have a self argument and FancyGetopt.print_help() places the file argument first, but all the functions that call it seem to expect the header argument to be first. A patch is attached that fixes the problem. -- Harry Henry Gebel, Senior Developer, Landon House SBS West Dover Hundred, Delaware PyNcurses: python binding for ncurses http://pyncurses.sourceforge.net

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PyNcurses using Distutils
by Harry Henry Gebel 23 Apr '00

23 Apr '00

I thought this would be an appropriate place to mention that the CVS version of PyNcurses now uses Distutils. The next release (which will be in a few days) will also use them. Thanks for the great package, if anybody here uses PyNcurses they can tell you the old method was about as primitive as they come, now with Distutils it makes things look like I know what I'm doing ;) -- Harry Henry Gebel, Senior Developer, Landon House SBS West Dover Hundred, Delaware PyNcurses: python binding for ncurses http://pyncurses.sourceforge.net

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ANNOUNCE: Distutils 0.8.1 released
by Greg Ward 22 Apr '00

22 Apr '00

This release fixes a couple of bugs that people reported in Distutils 0.8, as well as adding two nice features. Here's the change log... * added the meta-data display options: now you can run the setup script with --name, --author, --description, etc. and it will print out that information (thanks to Bastian Kleineidam for the original idea and patch) * thoroughly overhauled the distutils.fancy_getopt module to support those options * manifest template files can now take many filename patterns per line (thanks to Andrew Kuchling) * code cleanup: better and more consistent use of exceptions * building extensions should now work on AIX, thanks to a hack that fixes "./ld_so_aix" in Python's installed Makefile * fixed the "sample3" example to actually work (it hadn't been updated with the Great Renaming prior to release 0.8) Greg You'll find at the usual place: http://www.python.org/sigs/distutils-sig/download.html -- Greg Ward - programmer-at-large gward(a)ase.com http://starship.python.net/~gward/ I'm a nuclear submarine under the polar ice cap and I need a Kleenex!

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