Mailman 3 June 2006 - Distutils-SIG

Package versioning
by Timothy Docker 29 Apr '18

29 Apr '18

Hi all, I've been aware that the distutils sig has been simmerring away, but until recently it has not been directly relevant to what I do. I like the look of the proposed api, but have one question. Will this support an installed system that has multiple versions of the same package installed simultaneously? If not, then this would seem to be a significant limitation, especially when dependencies between packages are considered. Assuming it does, then how will this be achieved? I am presently managing this with a messy arrangement of symlinks. A package is installed with its version number in it's name, and a separate directory is created for an application with links from the unversioned package name to the versioned one. Then I just set the pythonpath to this directory. A sample of what the directory looks like is shown below. I'm sure there is a better solution that this, and I'm not sure that this would work under windows anyway (does windows have symlinks?). So, has this SIG considered such versioning issues yet? Cheers, Tim -------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Docker timd(a)macquarie.com.au Quantative Applications Division Macquarie Bank -------------------------------------------------------------- qad16:qad $ ls -l lib/python/ total 110 drwxr-xr-x 2 mts mts 512 Nov 11 11:23 1.1 -r--r----- 1 root mts 45172 Sep 1 1998 cdrmodule_0_7_1.so drwxr-xr-x 2 mts mts 512 Sep 1 1998 chart_1_1 drwxr-xr-x 3 mts mts 512 Sep 1 1998 Fnorb_0_7_1 dr-xr-x--- 3 mts mts 512 Nov 11 11:21 Fnorb_0_8 drwxr-xr-x 3 mts mts 1536 Mar 3 12:45 mts_1_1 dr-xr-x--- 7 mts mts 512 Nov 11 11:22 OpenGL_1_5_1 dr-xr-x--- 2 mts mts 1024 Nov 11 11:23 PIL_0_3 drwxr-xr-x 3 mts mts 512 Sep 1 1998 Pmw_0_7 dr-xr-x--- 2 mts mts 512 Nov 11 11:21 v3d_1_1 qad16:qad $ ls -l lib/python/1.1 total 30 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 29 Apr 10 10:43 _glumodule.so -> ../OpenGL_1_5_1/_glumodule.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 30 Apr 10 10:43 _glutmodule.so -> ../OpenGL_1_5_1/_glutmodule.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 22 Apr 10 10:43 _imaging.so -> ../PIL_0_3/_imaging.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 36 Apr 10 10:43 _opengl_nummodule.so -> ../OpenGL_1_5_1/_opengl_nummodule.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 27 Apr 10 10:43 _tkinter.so -> ../OpenGL_1_5_1/_tkinter.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 mts mts 21 Apr 10 10:43 cdrmodule.so -> ../cdrmodule_0_7_1.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 mts mts 12 Apr 10 10:43 chart -> ../chart_1_1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 12 Apr 10 10:43 Fnorb -> ../Fnorb_0_8 lrwxrwxrwx 1 mts mts 12 Apr 10 10:43 mts -> ../mts_1_1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 15 Apr 10 10:43 OpenGL -> ../OpenGL_1_5_1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 33 Apr 10 10:43 opengltrmodule.so -> ../OpenGL_1_5_1/opengltrmodule.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 33 Apr 10 10:43 openglutil_num.so -> ../OpenGL_1_5_1/openglutil_num.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 10 Apr 10 10:43 PIL -> ../PIL_0_3 lrwxrwxrwx 1 mts mts 10 Apr 10 10:43 Pmw -> ../Pmw_0_7 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 10 Apr 10 10:43 v3d -> ../v3d_1_1

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[Distutils-sig] distutils charter and interscript
by John Skaller 29 Apr '18

29 Apr '18

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setuptools site-package pollution
by Anthony Tarlano 10 Oct '06

10 Oct '06

Hi all.. Firstly, I would like to say thanks for the setuptools package, which I was introduced to after reading about the RuleDispatch package on the IBM developerworks charming python series. Oh btw. RuleDispatch is the most useful python package that I have seen in the last year in the python world, so thanks for that also ;) Now that the congrats and hugs are out of the way, I would like to ask a question. How can I tell setuptools not to put packages, such as dispatch, protocols, and setuptools, in a subdirectory named the same as the egg and to just put the package name. For example from pydoc I currently get: c:\python\lib\site-packages\ruledispatch-0.5a0.dev_r2100-py2.4-win32.egg dispatch (package) c:\python\lib\site-packages\pyprotocols-1.0a0dev_r2082-py2.4-win32.egg dispatch protocols (package) c:\python\lib\site-packages\setuptools-0.6a8-py2.4.egg easy_install pkg_resources setuptools (package) site what I would like to see is just: ..\site-packages dispatch (package) ..\site-packages protocols (package) ..\site-packages setuptools (package) Maybe it is just a pet-peeve, but I like to keep a nice tidy site-packages directory, and these long directory names just seem to me to be pollution of my site-packages directory in my command shell. If there is an option to have just the packages, I would really appreciate someone telling me what it is. If not maybe it could be considered, and to put whatever meta-data the directory names are providing somewhere else.. Thanks, Anthony

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Re: [Distutils] Problem between bdist_msi and egg-info (Python 2.5b1)
by Phillip J. Eby 02 Jul '06

02 Jul '06

At 04:21 PM 6/29/2006 +0100, Paul Moore wrote: > File "D:\Apps\Python25\Lib\msilib\__init__.py", line 115, in add_data > raise MSIError("Could not insert "+repr(values)+" into "+table) >_msi.MSIError: Could not insert [(None, 'site_packages', >'TEST-1~1.EGG|test-1.0-py2.5.egg-info', 186L, None, None, 512, 1)] >into File This line is masking whatever the actual error is. If you look at the source, you'll see it's doing "except Exception,e:" and trapping whatever the real problem is. I'd suggest commenting out the try/except and see what error comes up instead. That should tell us more about the problem. I believe Martin v. Loewis is the author of bdist_msi; I'm not sure if he reads this list or not. Perhaps he will comment.

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Re: [Distutils] Best practices for creating eggs?
by Phillip J. Eby 02 Jul '06

02 Jul '06

At 04:13 PM 6/29/2006 +0100, Paul Moore wrote: >Agreed. But in the absence of a standard, supporting package authors' >existing approaches, which work with other distutils mechanisms, seems >like a reasonable requirement. Anything that the package author installs as package data, or using the data_files option to setup(), is included in the egg. And if you install unzipped, you should be able to browse the included docs.

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Re: [Distutils] Why using distutils.core.setup requires Python sources ?
by Phillip J. Eby 29 Jun '06

29 Jun '06

At 12:03 AM 6/30/2006 +0200, Jérôme Bouat wrote: > > only the contents of "/usr/lib/python2.x/config/" -- the directory where > > Python's build configuration information is copied upon installation. > >Its seems that my Mandriva Linux distro did not package this well: > >[j@localhost ~]$ rpm -q --all | grep --ignore-case python >python-2.4.1-3mdk >python-numeric-24.0-1mdk >python-base-2.4.1-3mdk >libpython2.4-2.4.1-3mdk >libxml2-python-2.6.21-3mdk You might first want to check if there is a 'python-dev' or 'python-devel' package you can install; some distributions only install the 'config' directory with such a package. >[j@localhost ~]$ >[j@localhost ~]$ rpm -q --list $(rpm -q --all | grep --ignore-case >python) | grep --ignore-case makefile >[j@localhost ~]$ >[j@localhost ~]$ locate -i makefile | grep --ignore-case python >/usr/share/doc/libidn11-0.5.18/contrib/idn-python/Makefile >[j@localhost ~]$ >[j@localhost ~]$ rpm -q >--whatprovides /usr/share/doc/libidn11-0.5.18/contrib/idn-python/Makefile >libidn11-0.5.18-2mdk >[j@localhost ~]$ > >Maybe I should report this as a Mandriva bug. What you've shown above is an unrelated Makefile. It's likely that the needed 'config' directory is installed by another package that you don't currently have installed. If there is no such package, or it doesn't install the 'config' directory, then you should indeed report a bug.

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Re: [Distutils] Why using distutils.core.setup requires Python sources ?
by Phillip J. Eby 29 Jun '06

29 Jun '06

At 10:39 PM 6/29/2006 +0200, Jérôme Bouat wrote: >Thanks for your reply. > >Thus, distutils is not designed for distributing a module outside the >Python source repository ? I don't understand your question. When Python is installed, it installs a copy of the Makefile that was used to create that Python installation. So this has nothing to do with the source directory used to compile Python, only the contents of "/usr/lib/python2.x/config/" -- the directory where Python's build configuration information is copied upon installation.

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Weird PyPI Behavior
by Jim Fulton 29 Jun '06

29 Jun '06

If I do something like: python2.4 setup.py register bdist_egg upload as recommended in the setuptools documentation, I end up with 2 "releases" in PyPi. One has all my descriptive information and the other has the egg. One or more will or won't be hidden according some rule that I haven't been able to divine. If the release with the meta data (e.g. description, author, etc.) is not hidden, then easy_install can't seem to find the eggs. At least this is true today. I thought it wasn't true yesterday, but I don't trust my recollection. If I hide the release with the descriptive information, then easy_install can find the eggs, but most of my meta data isn't shown. Has anyone else seen this behavior, or am I just insane. For now, I'm not uploading eggs to PyPI, which is a shame, because setuptools sure made it convenient. :( Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:jim@zope.com Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714 http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org

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Optimize option for windows exe scripts?
by Patrick K. O'Brien 29 Jun '06

29 Jun '06

Is there a way to have the Windows .exe created by setuptools use optimized Python, like "python -O myscript.py"? http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/setuptools#automatic-script-creation In particular, I'd like this option to work with a project where I am working out of Subversion using "python setup.py develop". -- Patrick K. O'Brien Orbtech http://www.orbtech.com Schevo http://www.schevo.org Louie http://www.pylouie.org

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Why using distutils.core.setup requires Python sources ?
by Jérôme Bouat 29 Jun '06

29 Jun '06

I don't understand why distutils.core.setup needs Python sources (a missing Makefile on my distro). I did not found in the mail archives. Could you explain me ? Thanks.

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Distutils-SIG June 2006