On Jan 30, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Noah Kantrowitz <noah@coderanger.net> wrote:
On Jan 30, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Vinay Sajip <vinay_sajip@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
-------------------------------------------- On Thu, 30/1/14, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers@gmail.com> wrote:
Also end user. If, as a user, I want to use inplace builds and PYTHONPATH instead of virtualenvs for whatever reason, that should be supported. Setuptools inserting stuff to sys.path that come before PYTHONPATH entries is quite annoying.
If tool developers want to offer end users the option to control how they work with sys.path, that's up to them. For example, once the details are worked out, the distil tool will probably get a --mountable option for the package command, which will write metadata into the built wheel indicating whether the wheel is addable to sys.path or not (based on the builder's knowledge of the wheel's contents). Distlib, when asked to mount a wheel (add it to sys.path) will check the mountability metadata and honour the wheel publisher's intent.
For everyone following along, the PEP has been updated. http://hg.python.org/peps/rev/26983acc9c11
If anyone has comments on the next text you can find it at http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0427/#is-it-possible-to-import-python-cod...
I hope we can discuss further changes as a group before they are pushed live.
--Noah
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The updated text is fine with me as it at least accurately documents the fact that using that feature is fraught with peril and reads more of a documentation of the behavior than anything else. So thanks for the final (I hope?) update Nick, and sorry this thread got all ragey. On the plus side this spurred me into trying to put the thoughts I’ve had for a newer Wheel format down into a PEP and I think it’s turning out well so far :] ----------------- Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA