
My company was recently in this situation, and it was definitely hard to get information on non-self-hosted solutions for private packages. We settled on packagecloud.io, but there are some definite pain points that I think PyPA could productively document: - Many tools do not support indices other than PyPI well. It is cumbersome and poorly documented to specify another index, and that index is only ever used as a fallback, increasing runtime and creating name-squatting concerns. - It is unclear which "python packaging" services actually offer a PyPI-like index, as opposed to an orthogonal Python library distribution strategy. - Packagecloud only supports the "simple" index API, which makes it slower for tools to work with and presumably less future-proof. It's particularly annoying to me, since I've been working on a dependency management system and only added support for PyPI's new JSON API. Having a quick survey of the options (including commercial ones) available and how tools integrate with them would have been very useful to us. On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 7:44 AM David Cournapeau <cournape@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 7:44 AM Nathaniel Smith <njs@pobox.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Paul Moore <p.f.moore@gmail.com> wrote:
On 30 July 2018 at 23:01, David Cournapeau <cournape@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I see that there is almost no mention of private packages index in the packaging guide, and no recommendation on what to use.
Currently googling for private packages mostly return obsolete (and not very practical) recommendations based on dependency links.
In 2018, what would be the recommended practices for teams that develop private packages that depend on each other ?
That's a very good point, and I think it would be a really useful addition to the packaging guide. I believe the most commonly recommended approach is to use a local,devpi instance as a private index, but in terms of development workflow around that basis, I don't really know that there's much in the way of a consensus. (I should say that I don't work in an environment like this myself, so my comments are based purely on what I've heard, not on personal experience).
A tricky aspect here is that this niche has been colonized by commercial projects like Artifactory, Gemfury, etc., and I'm not sure we want to get into recommending one commercial product versus another (or that we even have any effective way to compare them).
Right, I would not expect us to do anything besides maybe mentioning proprietary solutions.
But for OSS solutions, there are multiple options, and it is not clear which ones are appropriate for which usage. E.g. do you need multi index support, do you need upload support, etc. ?
Would it make sense to start such a document as a PR ?
David
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