Hi, There's buildout 1.4.4, 1.5.2 and an alpha of 2.0. The 2.0 seems to aim at python 3 and is, according to the docs, in a very early alpha stage, so I'll leave that one out. What I'm using now is 1.4.4 with the special bootstrap.py that ensures it picks 1.4.4 instead of a newer one. The reason: it works with http://pypi.python.org/pypi/osc.recipe.sysegg which finds system wide python packages (numpy and other stuff better installed through the OS). I tried 1.5.x half a year ago, but it didn't find numpy&friends on ubuntu even though 1.5 is supposed to allow just that. I tried it this morning on OSX with 1.5.2 but still no luck. It doesn't want to find the OS-level packages. But... sticking to ye olde 1.4.4 seems wrong to me. So I phoned my brother Maurits (hi!) who is working with plone: plone is a heavy buildout user, so what's the status there? He said plone is basically also still on 1.4.4! a) I feel a bit better sticking to 1.4.4, knowing that plone also does it. b) Is anyone actually using 1.5.2 with system packages? And by that I mean that you have a dependency on something like numpy and buildout actually finds that package locally and won't try and grab it off pypi? Am I doing something wrong? I dare say I've got an above average experience with buidout and I just can't get this to work. Reinout p.s.: Here's my buildout config. Am I doing something completely wrong? [buildout] parts = scripts include-site-packages = true allowed-eggs-from-site-packages = numpy [scripts] recipe = zc.recipe.egg eggs = numpy -- Reinout van Rees http://reinout.vanrees.org/ reinout@vanrees.org http://www.nelen-schuurmans.nl/ "If you're not sure what to do, make something. -- Paul Graham"