At 03:23 PM 7/3/2010 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote:
In that spirit, Tarek, you need to stop saying "setuptools is unmaintained for the last 2 years": PJE objects to it as unfactual, as do I. THe release last October makes that statement untrue on its face.
Additionally, I would like to have some reassurance that when I begin releasing 0.7 alpha versions, that the distribute community is not going to start accusing me (as Tarek just did) of doing things "in reaction" to them, or to sabotage them, or say that I'm trying to force people to switch back to setuptools... And ideally, I would like them to refrain from implementing technological measures to interfere with setuptools' normal upgrade process. Since last September, the current release of setuptools has been downloaded from PyPI more times than all releases of distribute *combined*. I am therefore much more concerned with providing normal updates to the setuptools user base, than I am with interfering with people who really *want* to use distribute, for whatever reason. However, by the same token, it also means that I have no wish to spend a lot of time trying to figure out how to work *around* distribute! I would much prefer to advise people who wish to upgrade setuptools, to simply uninstall distribute before upgrading, rather than to have to implement technological measures to address the situation. But the last time that I advised that people upgrading setuptools needed to uninstall distribute first, I received accusations that I was trying to undermine distribute and spread FUD by telling people to uninstall it. (My time for working on open source development these days is limited, and tends to come in chunks, especially around holidays. There were at least two such opportunities earlier this year where I considered tackling some of my smaller planned features for 0.7, and then thought about the likely hassle of actually *releasing* any of that work, and then promptly turned my attention to other, less-controversial projects.)