2009/10/13 ssteinerX@gmail.com <ssteinerx@gmail.com>:
Then suddenly out of the blue, everything is fixed in setuptools 06c10 and we must "uninstall Distribute completely" get these fixes.
Well yes. We knew this would happen sooner or later. It's not a problem. We all know it would be better if PJE would let others help him, but he doesn't want to, and that is his right and completely up to him. Obviously any fixes he does is going to end up in Distribute 0.6.x as well. They might not be done in exactly the same ways, unless he feels like explaining why his way is better for each of the fixes. But they will be fixed in Distribute, and in fact have for the most part already been fixed. 2009/10/13 P.J. Eby <pje@telecommunity.com>:
That's Distribute's doing, not mine.
True. On the other hand, Distribute is your doing, so you aren't completely blameless. :-)
In any case, the update is not intended for people who are happy to have Distribute, but the people who are unhappy about having to switch, or deal with its workarounds...
Absolutely true.
or just wish the whole discussion would go away.
Well, I sure everyone wants the discussion to go away, but that probably only happens the day you let others help you. 2009/10/13 Brad Allen <bradallen137@gmail.com>:
That's me, along with the other Python users who need this distutils/setuptools/buildout to work in production and cannot afford the kind of disruption which 'distribute' will introduce.
Disruption?
I'm glad to see the distribute project in progress with an open development process but would rather it be used for a new Python 3.x PyPi, where all the new libraries can include the appropriate support for distribute (with no need to clean up a vast library of existing PyPi packages).
If there isn't a migration path where you can support both from the same codebase, Python 3 is dead. So that is not an option.
Sorry to jump into the middle of a heated debate which I've not followed closely, but I wanted to provide some feedback that I (and my employer) am glad to have fixes to setuptools because that provides critical infrastructure to us today, and if Python 2.6.3 or 2.6.4 contains important fixes, we don't want to get stranded in 2.6.2.
There we completely agree. That PJE releases a new version of setuptools is good. It's not a problem for anyone, and the more software the merrier. -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64